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  • PEN15v2
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    I'm interested in this direction. It's not the most captivating way I can think of when combining JBL and Corbin, but that combo is always going to be enough to get me invested.

    Powder and I discussed this during Raw. I understand Corbin isn't anyone's favorite, and the idea of an older generation pushing a modern talent would conjure up ideas of true up and comer. I guess I'm annoyed at the idea of thumbing my nose at an idea just because I can think of something I would prefer more, without giving the presented idea a chance. When you saying JBL the Wrestling God, it should be obvious that it's somewhat delusional that a brawler would use a monikor that gives the impression of a technical scientific wrestler. Using that standard, Corbin is a good choice. Best choice? Probably not. But there is a logic there, and I'm interested in seeing where it goes.

    If all it gives me is JBL as a manager for a few weeks, I'll be happy.
    Last edited by PEN15v2; 10-17-2022, 10:13 PM. Reason: deleting one extra word

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  • PEN15v2
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    He's not. At all. He's a heel still.

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  • Funker
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    I guess you give them credit for trying something new but I am not sure I can see Corbin as a babyface working out very well....

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  • The Cook
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    Yeah, it actually looks like it might end up in a face turn and tag team with Kevin Owens. A bit like Orton and Riddle on Raw. At least it's something different for the guy.

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  • Prime Time
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    So they're running a thing where he's broke now, I guess?

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  • Powder
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    I know the suspension of disbelief is 100% required when watching wrestling (any professional organization from the smallest indy to the WWE), but this is a little too much.

    https://wrestlingheadlines.com/wwe-w...y-in-the-bank/

    'Attempted Murder Heat'? We all know that neither Rey or Black were in any danger, and various shots of the roof from the drone showed the secondary and lower landing roof, but if Vince's idea was to get Attempted murder heat, then he Corbin laughs it off....Why wasn't there an arrest for Corbin on Monday? The WWE used to have people taken away in cuffs all the time. So why not have Corbin 'arrested'? Then is could be worked into the story by having both Rey and Black drop all charges in liue of 'getting their hands on him'.

    But if the idea was just to get 'Attempted Murder Heat', that is pushing the envelope way too far.

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  • King Kong Sundae
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    Now he is qualified is it worth having Corbin with the briefcase again and then working a story off what happened to him last time? Done well I think that could be fun as he tries to avoid another embarrassing night though I think he would have to win this time.

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  • Powder
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    I really hated that Hardy beat Corbin in a few minutes. I do not care that there was an Elias distraction, it took Roman Reigns months to finally beat Corbin and Hardy does it in a few minutes?

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  • PEN15v2
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    In the era of smart fans and cool heels, Baron is a huge asset. The problem is that his in ring work isn't great. You don't need to be a technical master or a lazy heel to be a main event player, but his in ring stuff doesn't match the character. He's still wrestling at the Lone Wolf, and not the Former GM.

    I thin they need to bring in his Golden Gloves history more, make his strikes count even more.

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  • LifeLostInRewind
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    Originally posted by King Kong Sundae View Post
    Honestly never thought a PPV go home RAW would have Corbin standing tall over the champ...
    They have to make him look at least a little credible leading up to the match.

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  • King Kong Sundae
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    Honestly never thought a PPV go home RAW would have Corbin standing tall over the champ...

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  • Oliver
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    I'd thought they'd set up Angle vs Corbin because it would be a relatively easy win for Angle to see him off into the sunset without him having to wrestle 15+ minutes and nearly die because his neck fell out of his ear.

    To be honest, I thought it was pretty clever booking. Corbin is (relatively) hated by the crowd, Angle will get a swansong, and it's all tied up in five minutes of in ring action.

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  • LK3185
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    I just think times are different and the old way of doing things just don't work. Sometimes they do work and I'm not saying that Corbin isn't doing the job that he was asked to do while doing it pretty effectively. He is exactly what they want especially in that heel authority type figure.

    However, I don't like the guy doesn't = I want to see him get beat up partially because as much as I try to invest in the product, there's so much weird logic in the stories that most times, it takes me right out of being invested. So if i'm not invested in the story (like I was/have been for Kofi) then I want something I will enjoy or at the very least not think is stupid. I think of Corbin as a joke and as such, having Kurt pick him to be his last opponent feels false. In character, it seemed to me Angle got what he wanted. So now he should go out against his handpicked guy.. Similar to Flair picking HBK.

    Of course a Corbin match would have a negative reaction.

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  • Prime Time
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    Originally posted by Mr Chop View Post
    There's no reason why wrestling should be any different.
    Have to agree to disagree on that. As far as I'm concerned wrestling was different for most of its history, and that's what made it special. To me if you abandon that, it's really stopped being wrestling.

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  • Mr Chop
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    Originally posted by Powder View Post

    Now you can't "hate" the heels because we all know they are playing a part. It's like hating any actor who is the villain in any movie. We know that Bryan is one of the nicest guys on the roster, but he is playing the role of a complete dick. That is the problem.
    It isn't though. I hate Biff Tannen, I don't hate the guy that played him. When I'm watching a movie, a good one at least, I shouldn't be thinking about the actor. There's no reason why wrestling should be any different. I shouldn't be thinking "Kevin Owens is sure portraying a heel in an interesting fashion" I should be thinking he's a piece of shit and wanting the hero to stomp him.

    Like, I loved Alan Rickman in Die Hard, but I was glad John McClane threw Hans Gruber out a Window. We should be able to enjoy a performer and still hate the character he's playing. I think for a lot of fans now the performance is all that matters. That's not entirely the fans fault, WWE definitely has blame because they routinely fail to present interesting stories/characters. So perhaps there's an element of the fans just trying to find SOMETHING to enjoy.

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