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  • Maybe he’s placating that loud minority who always thinks people should be putting everyone and their Judy Bagwell over. Isn’t it strange that the people who draw the most money are always complained about for not putting everyone over. There’s so much complaining it seems you’d lose fans for not listening to it, but it usually goes the opposite way.
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    • I'd always rather see the big push where select guys almost never lose... unless those are guys I don't like, then I'll be quick to shout "now it's my ox that's being gored!!" XD

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      • I think there probably a couple hundred thousand who’d tune in if Cody was booked well and more regularly. Guy hasn’t accomplished enough to part time and talk about retirement.
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        • Isn't that the story of the whole thing, going back to 2019? There's always a reason why something just doesn't quite work (or, still worse, would never work), but it's always written off as something that doesn't matter. The detail that might make it connect more broadly is seen as trivial by the people within the camp. I imagine this is no different - though Cody's odd position at the moment might see him be treated more critically than if it were one of the others.

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          • Man, I think that hits it for me, and it’s sort of wrestling in general. Not many home runs hit anymore. Maybe a double. I don’t know if they even get to third base. It’s here, there, everywhere.
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            • Just saw Cody’s latest promo. He’s really embarrassing to watch. I’ve never felt so humiliated watching a promo in my life. What the hell goes through his mind to say these things?
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              • Originally posted by Benjamin Button View Post
                I’ve never felt so humiliated watching a promo in my life.
                I haven't seen the promo yet, but having seen at least one Russo promo I suspect I will not relate.

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                • The promo was very cringe-worthy. It's a bunch of fourth wall shit with Cody essentially complaining about his treatment by the fans (though it was done passive aggressively) and then taking a shot at Jim Cornette, but in the same promos foreshadowing that we'll probably end up going the exact direction that Cornette has suggested will be the eventuality of Cody's current storyline. He brings up the stip about not getting another title match - have to think he'll break that stip and actually win the belt to solidify his heel turn. Cody is really not likable or relatable. He was the least repugnant EVP from my perspective up until a few months ago, but that's certainly not the case in my eyes anymore, especially after this week.

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                  • You said it, BK. Was my favorite guy they had, but all his half ass storylines and weird promos—he’s really had some issues. He’s never been the biggest star in a major promotion and he’s talking like he’s John Cena.

                    I think that neck tattoo may be the one talking these days. Dusty was magnetic, and at this point, Cody’s becoming repellent. Some of the stuff he says and does may seem like the current “in” thing to say but a lot of people don’t like that stuff, especially if it’s coming off as phony. He reminds me of some preacher’s kid up there apologizing to the church, really makes me blush to see him saying all those out of place things.

                    If he’s making a covenant not to challenge for the belt, why’s he even there? What’s he supposedly competing for? His entire goal is to never be world champion.
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                    • It strikes me as quite a significant problem. He's one of the only people who is going to appeal outside of the pre-existing indie fan crowd. A couple of the guys with WWE careers may well do, and then there's the chance MJF could piss off anyone and get heat. But you can definitely count them on your fingers - and several of their main event guys are not just not on that list but the way they get used, they might actually harm talents who could.

                      But if Cody isn't going to be used properly at all, and he's going to come off the way he seems to be.... as I say, feels like a big issue to me.

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                      • I think the original decision to run with the 'never challenge for the AEW Championship' stipulation was a really interesting one, but realistically it's backed AEW into a serious corner of what to do with Cody. He's been floundering just a bit since his initial TNT title run and the loss to Allin, because they've had him as the foil in various high profile debuts and matches, but not really anything important enough to get people invested in backing him. His feud with Malakai, for example, was mostly built on the emotion of the attack on Arn and not anything that happened between he and Cody.

                        I think they could very easily turn him heel if they wanted to, and in doing so they can have him throw out the stipulation. Why not have him use his executive privilege, which we all know about, to null and void the stipulation and force himself into that reckoning? It could be the final move in a slow heel turn.

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                        • It could lead to an interesting feud for Cody though.

                          Cody does turn heel, and uses his EVP Power to overturn his own decision, then Tony Kahn comes out and says that he can't do that. And Tony finds his competitor to face Cody in a match where the stip is: If Cody wins, he can challenge for the AEW Title, and if he loses, he cannot. You can also have this as an extended feud, where Cody keeps cheating to win, but Tony keeps catching him forcing into a HIAC type of match (which should only be used in a blow off match to make the final decision where Cody wins.

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                          • I feel like he might be turning heel. I mean, the first thing a good heel is going to say is that he's not a heel. But maybe he feels he needs to be a babyface, even if he's not accepted by the crowd as such, if he's going to do all his outside ventures.

                            Cody's a tough one. He should have been right there in the mix for the Heavyweight Title from the beginning. Maybe not having won it yet, but create that sympathy and desire to see it by having him get so close a number of times only to just fall short by some outside forces.

                            He should have been the one in this Hangman Page position. And he should be getting crowned here.

                            That slow trudge to the top overcoming obstacles and taking some detours to face other top guys would have been so much more compelling than anything we've seen so far. Nonsense feud with Shaq? Cody vs QT? USA vs UK and Cody being the savior of interracial babies? Cody vs Penta for two weeks?

                            They had MJF and Jericho fight over and over and over, but we couldn't get more than a single match out of Cody's "best friend" throwing in the towel and costing him the title?

                            Cody could have been working with top guys for two years. Instead he's been jerking off with his students and cutting high school drama promos.
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                            • Cody, if he was more appealing, could have built up so much sympathy from the crowd, and then the crowd begs him to go back on his word to dethrone Omega, or as I believe I said a long time ago....

                              Have MJF win the World Title, and we all know that he is such a natural heat magnet, and he can get the crowd to hate everything he does, that his 'rival' Cody has literally everyone begging him, from the crowd to the front office to break his word and challenge MJF.
                              Last edited by Powder; 11-03-2021, 03:05 PM.

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                              • And I think that all comes back to that stipulation - they had to find something else for Cody to do after the title match given the stipulation, and they went with the TNT title angle, which is/was great. But the moment he moved away from that and into 'other stuff' it's been a mess. Part of that is them trying to establish new faces against him - the likes of Black, or Marshall and Ogogo - and part of that is that AEW lacks a kind of 'upper midcard' that people can exist in without either the 'midcard' title or being in the title picture. I think their idea is that the upper midcard is filled by tag teams and their title picture, which is all well and good but means there's a singles rung missing. They've also put their stables wars, with Inner Circle vs Elite/Pinnacle/America's Top Team, in that position, but it's had a similar impact.

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