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  • This is the type of crap why he irks people:

    “I think I’m the best wrestler in the world. And I think it’s by a large margin. That upsets a lot of people, but I don’t mean it to draw ire. This is all I do. I’m not in charge. I’m here to hone my craft, build my body, and win matches. Every week, I have to be better. That’s the ultimate clarity for me.”

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    • It irks people to believe in yourself and talk about wanting to prove it? Did it irk anyone when Punk called himself the Best in the World?

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      • Originally posted by PEN15v2 View Post
        It irks people to believe in yourself and talk about wanting to prove it? Did it irk anyone when Punk called himself the Best in the World?
        It's often been a heel move to do so because it irks people, in fairness. Jericho, Punk, Bryan - all used it as part of heel persona, no? Punk maybe not initially but definitely leaned more into it when heel.

        Equally those 3 could back it up. Cody is a perfectly capable wrestler but is miles behind the very best.

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        • To me the difference is as Oliver said. Punk was doing it in character, while Cody said it candidly in an interview. He meant every word, regardless of it being the truth. If Cody said that it is his goal to be considered the best wrestler in the world. Or that once his career is done, he was the considered to be the greatest of all time then no problem, and I would then agree that he is believing in himself.

          Wrestling is scripted, but the promo work, and the in-ring ability is a true art, and yes there are those who are the best at this profession. But what if we looked at professional sports, and any player came out and said that he is the best player in the world, the media, and fans would tear that guy a new asshole.

          Being the best at your job is for others to entitle you that. Not for you to arrogantly say.

          Of course in character, say what ever the hell you want.

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          • Punk's character was about breaking the 4th wall, especially when he started using that catchphrase. He started as a heel (the pipebomb) but he quickly became a face and continued using it.

            I get that there are significant examples of heels using that attitude to be arrogant. Miz is the best example in my opinion. But we also had "the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be" come from the babiest of babyfaces in another character that really wasn't a character. The Rock called himself the Great One. There are plenty of examples of heroes claiming to be the best. And maybe I need to hear how Cody is using inflections in his interviews, but I don't see that quote as any different than Sasha using "I'm the Boss" or Bianca being the "EST."

            I think it comes down to people who watched him in AEW heard these promos, and now it's in year 3-4 of hearing it, and it's old. But for the fans who don't watch AEW (and that's a majority of the WWE audience), this is a new hero to get behind. If Cody is still pulling off these claims even a year from now without winning the big one, fans will turn on him. But there's absolutely no risk of that right now.

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            • Originally posted by PEN15v2 View Post
              It irks people to believe in yourself and talk about wanting to prove it? Did it irk anyone when Punk called himself the Best in the World?
              Yes.

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              • So, Cody's got no pecs left or something, I'm reading? Yet still worked the HiaC main with Rollins?

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                • You have got to look at any pics or video from HIAC...Cody's right pec and arm were purple. I have absolutely no idea how he wrestled the match. He was in so much pain, and he and Rollins pulled off a decent match.

                  He will be gone for months....my best guess is a Rumble return and win.

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                  • Having seen the pictures and read the diagnosis I'm surprised he wrestled at all. I'm really surprised WWE let him wrestle, even if he wanted.

                    I'm stunned to have read that he, supposedly, initially injured the pec on Monday night but then deliberately didn't let on to anybody and foolishly continued to train which is when the real damage was done. Stupidity.

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                    • I saw a sports trainer/medical expert explain that wrestling wasn't all that challenging with this injury. The summary was that with nerve blocker injections, you can avoid addictive pain killers. He didn't raise his arm over his shoulder, so that would alleviate a majority of the issues. You can't really make the injury worse from activity, but you are limited in movement. Once the ligament/tendon or whatever it was, once it is torn off/detached, it can't get any worse.

                      Basically it looks horrible, and I'm sure there was pain but it was manageable. And by working smart, the medical team can sign off on this without much issue.

                      Credit random poster on reddit who claims to be a specialist, so who knows how accurate it is. Makes sense to me though.

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                      • I guess you never know anything, but I suppose WWE and Cody weren't like, "We gave you all this money/I'm making all this money, and we have a plan, let's throw it all away for one match on one night." Yet, I go to Twitter (which is my mistake) and many are fighting on Cody's behalf, outraged he was allowed to wrestle. They are always looking out for people against their will. Thank you, great guardians of nothingness.

                        I ordered Peacock for the month just to see Cody. I love the trilogy. Wouldn't have minded Seth winning one, but I'm also not bitching about that (which is something else I saw, gotta protect Seth against his will, too). It says he could be out 6-12 months, at least as a report. I hope they find a way to keep him relevant. Cody has the ability to make me proud or to make me walk away. As does WWE. So far they've made me proud. Would love to see a well-told story that eventually leads to Cody holding the winged eagle belt.
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                        • Almost a year ago I tore my the long head distal biceps tendon. Completely gone. It was shockingly less painful in the moment than I assumed an injury like that would be. I actually thought that it was a sprain because I still had use of the arm and since I was in Mexico where I was warned away from the healthcare system, I didn't even have it looked at for 10 weeks. Without surgery, it'll never heal. A tendon doesn't repair without surgery. But according to my surgeon, had I gotten surgery within a week or two it would have been an ortho procedure and about six weeks before I was back training, 10-12 before I was 100%.

                          I didn't bother with surgery, because after two weeks or so, it becomes like a nine month recovery. I'm still wrestling like 15 times per month and lifting heavier weights than I did a year ago. My arm just hurts sometimes.

                          That's a longwinded way of saying that I have some experience with tendon injuries.

                          But yeah, Pen's right, it can't get worse once it's torn. Torn is the worst that it can be. And if you can grit your teeth through the pain, there's no reason not to work.

                          He'll need surgery, and a pec is a stronger muscle than a bicep, so I'm going to guess it's a slightly longer time to recover than the six weeks I was quoted. But it's a short enough time that I don't see any reason to pull him from TV.

                          I have a ton of respect for what Cody did last night. Just the bruising must have been brutally painful. That man is old school and cares about the business.
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                          • AND since his job is to be a wrestler, and to be in shape, and he has the time and the money...Cody will have personal docotrs/trainers helping him heal and rehabbing and getting back in shape ASAP.

                            Also since he is relatively young (36 as opposed to 46), I can see him coming back sooner than later. And to reiterate what I said before, it is June 6, the Royal Rumble will be at the end of January at the earliest, so that gives him 7-8 months to fully heal and shake off the ring rust. So I can see a "Surprise Return" and a Rumble win, and then he wins the WWE Title at WM and brings back the winged eagle the next night on RAW.

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                            • I could be wrong, but I don't even think it's going to be that long. I'm not thinking six months, he'll probably be able to be back in three with the right treatments.
                              https://youtu.be/wue-ZFnEta8
                              My latest (and hopefully last) Covid-Era show

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                              • I suppose it depends on the severity of the injury but John Cena took just under 4 months to come back from a very similar injury, if not the same. And he was 28 and has the reputation of being a genetic freak when it comes to healing. Obviously we don't know what their plan for Cody was but it does seem like it was building to him winning the World Title, with a Rumble win making sense anyway so if he's going to be out for 4-5 months it'd probably be worth keeping him off 6-7 and having him do exactly what Cena did and return as a surprise entrant to win it

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