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  • Oliver
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    Originally posted by LifeLostInRewind View Post
    They put Becky Lynch (who I assume is a face) on the same team as Charlotte (who is billed as a heel) so is Becky being billed as a heel in this feud? She did attack Fit Finley and Nattie last week at the performance center unprovoked, but I don't really know?
    I think they're leaning a little bit into what they know the reaction will be this weekend with it - the moment they announce Natalya as being from Canada in Toronto she'll get cheers. We're not likely to get a Punk/Cena style crowd reaction here, but I think WWE is being quite clever in letting the lines be a bit blurry on Becky's side without actually making her a 'heel' - and especially by having Charlotte take a walk they keep their natural tensions going.

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  • LifeLostInRewind
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    They put Becky Lynch (who I assume is a face) on the same team as Charlotte (who is billed as a heel) so is Becky being billed as a heel in this feud? She did attack Fit Finley and Nattie last week at the performance center unprovoked, but I don't really know?

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  • Oliver
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    That's a shame, if so - always thought she was underrated (although initially not ready for the position WWE put her in, I admit) and quite wanted to see her get a run in NXT during the earlier days.

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  • LK3185
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    I also think Alicia Fox is pretty much in retirement

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  • Oliver
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    Well, for a starter, why not give Becky the match with Trish?

    Why not do a Charlotte vs Becky rematch?

    Why not use someone like Carmella or Asuka from Smackdown who aren't doing anything but have an in built cache of credit from previous title runs? We've accepted that the Wild Card rule basically means the roster division means jack shit.

    More than anything, why not spend the last few months actively building up someone on the roster instead of giving Natalya only her second win on Raw this year to put her in the title match?

    Look, that Raw women's roster is paper thin - no Ronda, no Sasha, no Ruby, no Nia. Lacey's a busted flush in the main event right now, Alexa I think WWE are starting to lose trust in, Tamina's shit. Dana, Sarah Logan, and Alicia Fox barely get any screen time.

    So you're left with Nikki Cross, Natalya, or Naomi. Pick one, three months in advance, and have them wrestling and winning on Raw every week. I could get a buzz about Becky vs Natalya if I had any feeling that the latter was a legitimate threat, but one Raw win, in that #1 contender match, since March is an incredibly bad job of building her up.

    By the way, of those three names, I'm pretty sure Nikki Cross has the most Raw wins of any of them this year. Naomi has two since she was drafted, both at the end of April, Nikki Cross has three since just the start of June, not to mention a handful on Smackdown too.

    Ultimately, just make it seem like getting that match was due to a dominant run of matches, you know. A world where Natalya states in May that she's tired of the hot new thing coming in and being given opportunities, so she's going to prove she deserves a title shot, and then goes on a two month winning streak where she's in the ring every week beating someone is a much better one where she's a safe pair of hands and also happens to be from where the show is being held.

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  • LifeLostInRewind
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    Well, who else could they have fought against Becky given that Ronda and Sasha Banks aren't around right now?

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  • Oliver
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    Thing is, dependable is OK in a low level context, right? If I'm going in to watch, oh I don't know, let's say Roadblock, and the women's title match is Becky vs Natalya, it's fine. I don't expect WWE to give me a high end, top tier match on a throwaway show.

    But at SummerSlam, I expect more - I don't know if that's wrong of me or what. We've gone from Becky vs Charlotte vs Ronda - the three biggest and best female characters WWE have had in the past couple of years - at the #1 show to Becky vs Natalya at the #2 show in the year. That's a huge step down in terms of the level of the match itself. I'm not especially pleased that the Smackdown bout is Bayley vs Ember, for that matter, but it is what it is and I think Ember has a lot of untapped potential to deliver on if she gets a chance.

    Natalya just seems to keep getting this circuit. And, like, I'm fine with it because WWE can go to the Natalya well and rely on getting something OK in the ring out of it - something Becky certainly needs after the bed was shat in with Lacey. But it's not got any of the intrigue or excitement I would want from a match on this card.

    I don't want to get conspiracy-ish about it, but it's almost like they're setting the two title matches up to only 'whelm' the audience as they're booking a third match they think is twice as important as either of them and they want it to pop - again, fine in theory, but I'd rather see them make the title matches have something going for them.

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  • PEN15v2
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    Natalya is dependable. She doesn't have to be exciting or outstanding the way the top draws are. She just needs to deliver what she's asked to, and in the ring she does. I can't believe anyone goes to a show to see Natalya, but I also can't say that if Natalya is booked that I care less. She's solid in a way most germane wrestlers are not.

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  • T.O.
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    Trying to get bi, you mean.

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  • Oliver
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    Just your bog standard bisexual Englishman trying to get by over here.

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  • T.O.
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    I swear it's like you're me, Ollie. Except not transgender and not American, but hey. No one is perfect.

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  • LifeLostInRewind
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    Originally posted by Oliver View Post
    God I miss LayCool.

    Was that the tables tag match, T.O.? I remember it having a fun ending, for sure (I think a Natalya top rope splash?).
    Yes, that was the one.

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  • Oliver
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    God I miss LayCool.

    Was that the tables tag match, T.O.? I remember it having a fun ending, for sure (I think a Natalya top rope splash?).

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  • T.O.
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    Her and Beth Phoenix vs LayCool (miss them) at TLC 2010 was kinda cool, I guess.

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  • Oliver
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    Originally posted by LK3185 View Post
    She's boring as a character, has limited to no charisma and while wrestles fine, doesn't really connect while still getting random pushes.. cause she's well liked and a decent wrestler.


    That's pretty much it.. i also think she's been around so long, people get tired of them.
    It's kind of that, yeah - my problem with her is that while her wrestling is perfectly fine it doesn't really have any character to it. Which is where I kind of sit with her as a whole - I don't feel she's ever had, or delivered, a character. And she really, really can't cut promos.

    She's a good wrestler, but if you can pick me out more than one match where you're like 'yeah, Natalya was awesome in that match!' (and if the one match you think of immediately there isn't Charlotte vs Natalya for NXT) then I'd be kind of surprised.

    (I maybe have one other, which is against AJ Lee at TLC 2013. But it wasn't that great)

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