Live WWE TV Discussion Thread

[Buzzard Guts]

That's right. For some reason I forgot about Miz winning it and only remembered him losing it. Go figure.

[T.O.]

Didn't Miz win it on PPV after McIntyre won it back on RAW?

RAW - Drew beats Orton
PPV - Miz beats Drew
RAW - Lashley beats Miz
today

[Buzzard Guts]

The last three times the WWE Championship has changed hands has been on Raw

[Oliver]

What shoes is Roman wearing in that? They're nice shoes.

More seriously, what an excellent in ring segment.

[Team Farrell]

[Buzzard Guts]

Great promo segment between Cena and Reigns on SmackDown. Cena still shined, but Roman held his own against one of the best and you could tell her was WAY more comfortable than their 2017 encounter. Cena's reference to Punk was perfect on so many levels.

[Oliver]

I like Odyssey Jones. Think there's really something about him.

NXT is still, by some way, my preferred show of the week (I think if I can get myself back into NWA Powerrr that might change). Interested to see how they handle these supposed changes and whether they creep in over time or are a sudden adjustment, especially in terms of presentation. I can't imagine they just almost wholesale shift away from the wrestlers they've been building up over a number of months in favour of a different style/size of guy as has been reported, and honestly find that bit of the reports quite hard to believe. But I could see them being a bit more developmental on the production side and testing new things which will shift to the main roster in the future (if they work out) as has happened with other things in the past.

[PEN15v2]

I used to do that here in Canada when that was a monthly option. Circa 2007-2010 ish. I loved it.

[Buzzard Guts]

Anyone else considering watching SummerSlam in a movie theater? They're three times as much as a regular movie at my local theater but we're probably gonna go just for the experience.

[Team Farrell]

That would be a good way to go. I'd be interested in seeing Lee as a heel either way, whether it's Lee joining Hurt Business or Lee losing another match unexpectedly and turning pretty hard immediately afterward. I guess they could stretch it out to Summerslam and have him in Goldberg's corner as a counter to MVP, and when Lashley wins Lee gets in the ring with Goldberg, shakes his hand, raises his arm, murders him and leaves with Lashley and MVP.

If Lee were to run with them for a year, that's your main event for Summerslam 2022. By then, people will have hopefully forgotten.

[PEN15v2]

If I was booking, he'd turn heel on Monday. Join MVP and Bobby somehow. That would give him the mean streak. It would also be the safest way to book the loss on his surprise return.

[Team Farrell]

I really think that the only thing Lee is missing is a mean streak. He looks like The Hulk, but talks like Bruce Banner. And Hulk didn't start doing that until he was already over.

He doesn't need to be doing 80s coked out promos, nor screaming about how he's going to end a guy's life. But a little bass in his voice and a little less of a blank expression that I think it meant to be cocky and like the other guy doesn't phase him at all, and he's there. They made the wrong alterations when they brought him up.

I'd like to see him adjust his style a little, but I didn't see the match on Monday so I can't comment on that.

[PEN15v2]

Who says Vince doesn't? I think it's more likely he's trying to find a way to use Lee's promo style and mold it into something more "mainstream" (for lack of a better word). Not flat out change his promos, but a compromise between the 2.

I agree with Cold that no one will unseat Goldberg, unless it's the cash in.

[CoLD]

I can 100% get Vince not "getting" a guy like Keith. My issue with that is as the Boss shouldn't he convey that to his talent? Like how are talent gonna give Vince what he wants unless he tells them? I'm sure his weight and body shape are a part of it but it has to be more then that. He can clearly go in the ring. Is the cartoonish way he cuts promos a problem? Tell the guy. For a guy who just vanished for close to a year he could have worked on any issue Vince had with him. The way they run shit is just weird to me. I'm not as invested in Keith as a lot of others are but clearly when he goes out there the fans love him. Work with him to get him to where you want him and he can be as imposing as they think Goldberg is.

I dont see anyone realistically beating Lashley in the next few months. Kofi could have been a nice choice to give him another short run. Only other option is Big E cashing in and calling his day ahead of time right now. Other then that I dont see anyone beating Bobby anytime soon.

[Team Farrell]

I always thought Scarlett was the star between her and Kross and that her WWE lifespan would be longer. I just dont find Kross appealing. To me he needs her more then she will ever need him and that is a problem he needs to fix. Watching NXT you wouldnt be aware of how talented she is tho. It seems they only signed her to get him as all she has done is lip sync his song. Sometimes their choices really are weird.

I dont think a loss will kill Kross or Lee. Its just more of those weird choices. Yes you can book it but does that mean you should? To me these were two cases of no. Thats not the right choice. Plus in 2021 i find it insane that some how Goldberg would be a bigger challenge to Lashley based on past matches from Goldberg / Lee. Goldbergs WWE wins always seems fluky to me. Like he wins by someone else fucking up or doubting him more so then hat he can do.

I just wish they are building up for Lashley vs. Brock because it needs to happen.

I agree with the majority of this. I don't see any way that they don't see a bigger star in Scarlett than Kross. Will that come to fruition? Who knows. 20 years ago she'd be Sable and 100000% yes. Today where they've toned back the sex sells stuff? She might not reach the level she would have. Now, Scarlett as the siren leading a whole faction of bad asses would be great. It's too bad they've already killed off Dijak and that Mace guy.

I see what you're saying about Lee, but I just don't think that they see him as a big enough star to be anywhere near the Goldberg level. Like I said, I see where his promos and demeanor could lead to a disconnect that Vince wouldn't want to get behind.

Would they be smart enough to keep the belt on Lashley all the way to Mania and do Lashley vs Brock? They shit the bed last year and took it off of Drew in the fall for no discernable reason. As long as they don't get in their own way that could be the top match on Mania, built like an MMA program, and actually sell some Cocks.