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    Why is Nia playing the challenger in the match against Rousey, when she is the champ? Dumb.

    Also having Nia and Rousey w/o mouthpieces is terrible.

  • #2
    It was a nice moment at Mania, genuinely emotional and heart warming but since then it has gone downhill fast, very fast. Unfortunately the fears most had about her inexperience have proven very true and the thought of her in the ring with Rousey really worries me, especially since she was pulled out of 1-1 house matches with perhaps the most experienced hand in the locker room Mickie James.

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    • #3
      I really liked the run up to 'Mania but yeah, it seems like Nia isn't a good choice for a long term champ right now. If they are serious about going all in on Rousey right away, maybe the match will be very short? Then she can have longer matches with more experienced hands. I still feel like some shenanigans will keep the belt off Rousey, but if they feel there is a risk with Nia there's no way they're going to put Rousey in danger.

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      • #4
        I wonder what is next for Jax, if she gets dealt with decisively there isn't much for her to do, a giant stripped of their dominance is one of the hardest characters to rehab properly particularly without a mid card or tag team division to hang out with.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Powder View Post
          Why is Nia playing the challenger in the match against Rousey, when she is the champ? Dumb.
          Because as far as WWE are concerned Rousey > All. Nia should be priviliged just to be considered by Rousey to share a ring with her, so they have to make her appear like she's challenging Rousey rather than Rousey 'lowering' herself to Nia's level.

          The simplest thing to do with this match is have Nia truck through Rousey and dominate her. Suggest that Rousey has more to do to really hang with the top of the women's division, and assert Nia as the dominant woman on Raw.

          You can then have Rousey build herself back up, either through working her way through the division to earn a new shot, one that is coated with a redemption arc as she goes up against Nia again. Nia can continue to dominate the other women on Raw in title matches in the mean time.

          WWE have completely booked themselves into a corner, because there's the train of thought that Rousey shouldn't lose now because then she just becomes 'one of them' in the roster of women, instead of being 'Ronda Rousey'. But her whole MMA to WWE story has been about finding redemption for her losses in MMA, she even brought it up in interviews after WrestleMania - I think with ESPN - that she could finally contextualise them and be thankful for them because they had brought her to WWE and this point. So I think they can build on that into something really meaningful, a storyline that helps her develop as a character within the WWE world that's more than just 'Ronda Rousey - fangril' and is actually 'Ronda Rousey - complex character'.

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          • #6
            I think it's a difficult balance, because Rousey does have a special appeal, and part of that is being seen as one of the most dangerous women in the world, a title she's already earned despite the way her UFC career finished up. So I'm not sure what the best strategy is. Definitely agree WWE is in a corner, and I'm really not sure what the best solution is.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mizfan
              I think it's a difficult balance, because Rousey does have a special appeal, and part of that is being seen as one of the most dangerous women in the world, a title she's already earned despite the way her UFC career finished up. So I'm not sure what the best strategy is. Definitely agree WWE is in a corner, and I'm really not sure what the best solution is.
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              • #8
                Yeah, that's the best thing I can think of. That or the MITB cash in option.

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                • #9
                  Looks like Nia is heel again. So she is going to be The Big Show of the women's division.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LifeLostInRewind View Post
                    Looks like Nia is heel again. So she is going to be The Big Show of the women's division.
                    In more ways than 1. Nia, like Show, should be an unstoppable monster, who when she gets beat in a match, it should be by some shenanigans, i.e. countout, DQ, run-in, etc. But no, the WWE is going to waste her size and athletic ability for nothing, by feeding her to Rousey right now.

                    Also, it doesn't help Nia's cause that she cannot use the microphone at all. She makes a young Roman look amazing. Why can't we have Heyman as her mouthpiece

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                    • #11
                      I feel like unless you want them to be a long running champion a giant is a very difficult beast to book over a long period. The whole point of them is that they are going to get beaten by a hero but every time a hero finally beats them it becomes a little less special.

                      Years ago they could just disapear for a few months or go to another territory but nowadays they have to turn up to the show the next week after they finally got conquered and find a way to keep their unstoppable aura even though they just got stopped.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SirSam View Post
                        I feel like unless you want them to be a long running champion a giant is a very difficult beast to book over a long period.
                        Yep, absolutely. There's a reason Andre wasn't really ever booked as a world champion for more than about 30 seconds.

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                        • #13
                          I feel like that's a manufactured problem, to a certain extent. If the giant is popular enough to be champion, just let him or her be champion and roll over people until the crowd starts to get tired of it, then serve them a rare loss to whoever is hot below them.

                          I don't know if Nia is that kind of giant anyway, but I do wish they actually gave her a decent reason to turn heel. This smacks of the laziest kind of writing.

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                          • #14
                            That's probably a decent enough attitude in today's market, where it's really something of a sausage making machine, coming up with all that TV. In the old days, people were thinking ahead a lot more and working to protect the in-ring assets a lot more, so burning through someone with a 'we'll do something else later' was less of a thing.

                            But yeah, for most of wrestling's history that's totally been a thing. Gorilla Monsoon, Andre, Haystacks Calhoun, Bundy... take your pick, that kind of act didn't win the big one and rarely held singles titles of any kind to my knowledge. Of course back then it was easily explained away, 'big names won't take the match, how are they supposed to climb the rankings', etc.

                            Though as you say Nia might be a different case. It's certainly a different time.

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                            • #15
                              Solid point about the history of the giant character, but there were a lot fewer title reigns in general back then, and there was always a clear better option with those guys (Bruno, Hogan, Big Daddy, Hogan again, etc). Not sure if that's necessarily true today, with more people winning titles and less of a clear cut hot character that keeps the title all the time.

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