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  • #61
    To use an example, the leaping reverse STO has been used by Shelton Benjamin (Paydirt), MVP (Play of the Day), and R-Truth (Lil' Jimmy).

    As far as I'm aware, Kirfuda is the Japanese word for Trump Card, so maybe it plays into her Japanese time. Coquina's a Spanish rock...

    The only variation I've really noticed is that it seems like Baszler gets a better closure than Joe - she clutches the arm across the neck to the bicep of her opposite arm. Joe might grab his forearm or wrist more often. But they're fundamentally both just rear naked chokes.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Oliver View Post
      To use an example, the leaping reverse STO has been used by Shelton Benjamin (Paydirt), MVP (Play of the Day), and R-Truth (Lil' Jimmy).

      As far as I'm aware, Kirfuda is the Japanese word for Trump Card, so maybe it plays into her Japanese time. Coquina's a Spanish rock...

      The only variation I've really noticed is that it seems like Baszler gets a better closure than Joe - she clutches the arm across the neck to the bicep of her opposite arm. Joe might grab his forearm or wrist more often. But they're fundamentally both just rear naked chokes.
      Did Truth, Benjamin and MVP all use the move literally in the same company at the same time? I don't think there was overlap, so at least there was not 2 people using the same finisher with 2 different names at the same time.

      When Taker and Kane used the Tombstone, they called it a Tombstone for both.
      The Sharpshooter is still called the Sharpshooter in the WWE regardless of who uses it.

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      • #63
        Sting begs to differ...

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        • #64
          When hart went to WCW, did they both use the Sharpshooter/Scorpion Death Lock? I thought that Sting was primarily using the Scorpion Death Drop at that point. The only time I can remember an overlap was the 1997 Starrcade when Hart debuted to stop another 'fast count'.

          So if both did not use the hold, then the name difference would not have mattered.

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          • #65
            Sting has never not used the Deathlock.

            It's not the first time it's ever happened, and it won't be the last. Booker T still used the Book End when he came to WWE and Rock was using the Rock Bottom. Shelton, MVP and Truth have all used that move at the same time (I'm pretty sure Shelton and MVP used it on the same show).

            In essence, Baron Corbin's finish and Bray Wyatt's finish are the same bump with different names, Corbin just swings them through while Bray swings them around.
            https://youtu.be/wue-ZFnEta8
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Powder View Post
              Did Truth, Benjamin and MVP all use the move literally in the same company at the same time? I don't think there was overlap, so at least there was not 2 people using the same finisher with 2 different names at the same time.

              When Taker and Kane used the Tombstone, they called it a Tombstone for both.
              The Sharpshooter is still called the Sharpshooter in the WWE regardless of who uses it.
              There's a difference between a regular piledriver and a Tombstone piledriver. That's why.

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              • #67
                Samoa Joe is awesome on commentary. He is a natural and he could have a long career in the booth if he wants.

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                • #68
                  From what I remember, Joe has always been smooth on the mic whenever he didn’t realize cameras were on him. It was only when he had to focus on the camera and remember his lines that he seemed to fumble. Maybe that has something to do with him being good on commentary now?

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                  • #69
                    Hearing Joe is basically a full-time commentator now, that true?

                    "The worst moron is the one too stupid to realise they're a moron."

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                    • #70
                      I though I'd read the same thing. He's maybe still dealing with a concussion from that stupid commercial.

                      I thought I read that he was in kind of an "in case of emergency break glass" situation where they're happy with him on commentary but willing to use him in a top position if needed.
                      https://youtu.be/wue-ZFnEta8
                      My latest (and hopefully last) Covid-Era show

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                      • #71
                        Stocky submission specialist that was once a top star for a rival promotion gets relegated to full time color commentary. Sounds familiar.

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                        • #72
                          Yes it does sound familiar but both guys dealt with injuries when they came to the WWE and both guys had a natural transition to the booth. When Joe filled in last year prior to his 2 week comeback he was amazing and he is now even better.

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                          • #73
                            Following on from the releases thread.... what next for Samoa Joe?

                            "The worst moron is the one too stupid to realise they're a moron."

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