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  • Wow, I didn't know a lot of those details. Crazy to think they were doing well enough that with a little more business savvy they potentially could have kept rolling on their own for a long while yet.

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    • The purchase of UWF and all their debt was an awful decision. The purchase of UWF made Crocket think they were a fully baked national entity and also led to the much maligned decision to move HQ to Dallas. Compound that with botching the infusion of UWF talent into the company and it really was a cauldron of mismanagement.

      I’ll say this though, based on what I know of 1986 JCP and the one episode of their Saturday Night show that I’ve watched so far and I’m really looking forward to going deep in the weeds. I wonder what the effect of Magnum not suffering the career ending injury might have had on the company.

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      • He's definitely a huge what if, hard to imagine he wouldn't have been a big factor for a long time. What little I've seen of '96 JCP is indeed awesome!

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        • I’ve been wanting to watch/study 85 -87 JCP for a long time. The stuff ive seen from that era is awesome. I may be in the right place to do it now, but I have to subscribe again to the wwe network. Young Arn is often overlooked but I think of him as the Scott Hall of that Horsemen in that he embodied the threat and the spirit of that group. It’s amazing how young he was and how he was able tip hold his own with Blanchard, Flair, Ole, and Dusty. And to me if there’s three promos that established something huge in wrestling it’s Arn’s comparing what the alliance was doing to the four horsemen of apocalypse (giving them the horsemen name) , Hogan’s nWo promo at bash at the beach, and Austin’s King of the Ring promo.
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          • The Minnesota Wrecking Crew were the heart and soul of the original Horsemen and carried out the most brutal attacks on babyfaces that threatened Flair. When they kicked Ole, Arn was still badass and was the guy you had to beat to get a clear shot at Flair, but they never got back to that intensity even when Ole came back and heel turned the Horsemen on Sting.

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            • Very intense. I think a lot of what gets left out is how much that “Anderson family” went into the horsemen. Back to Ole and Gene”s day the Minnesota Wrecking crew were maiming their opponents and Flair came along as their cousin. That “family” fueled both Arn as a threat and the original horsemen. The Horsemen had ties that went back many years before its inception. And Ole, Arn, Flair, Tully, and JJ Dillon all had individual feuds with Dusty that went back. So lots of things that’d been under the surface for a long time just rose, came together, and meshed beautifully.
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              • Ole Anderson doesn't get much of a look in general these days, probably because he seems to be on bad terms with everyone on god's green earth, but he was definitely a key part of what set the original Horseman standard back in the day. I hope to one day dig deeply into that era, I know there are a lot of gems under the earth there.

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                • Man, I’m hoping to get more into that 85-87 era myself. I came across this video which shows Ole’s exit from the horsemen and it is such good stuff. The guy is removed from all the business they exist for but seems up to the end to think he will be chosen by Flair and Arn over Tully when he’s getting pretty clear red flags. It’s work vs family, and work wins. Lol

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                  • That's going right on my to watch list!

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                    • RIP Jim Crockett, Jr.

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                      • Man, perhaps the person who produced my favorite all time wrestling of course with great bookers like George Scott , Ole Anderson, and Dusty Rhodes at the helm. His influence on WCW cannot be understated. After all it came out of a territory called Mid Atlantic. That name Crockett means a lot to me.
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                        • Was a real shame to hear that. There were so many JCP references last night on Dynamite and they weren't even trying to do a tribute or anything, just look at the legacy he left.

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                          • It's a shame to hear about Crockett's passing. I know that he was sick off and on. The legacy of JCP is a very real thing and the what could have beens are innumerous when looked at with hindsight.

                            Cornette paid some tribute on his podcasts last week. The midweek show before Crockett passed was really detail oriented (as Cornette has a penchant to do when it comes to older wrasslin). I found it interesting that Cornette said, and I have no reason to doubt him, had Crockett stayed regional and not sold out to Turner (meaning had Crockett tried not to compete with Vince) that Cornette couldn't see himself ever leaving the Carolinas. For a guy that bounced around quite a bit and someone who picked fights everywhere he went Cornette really loved his time there and emphatically stated that he had never even thought to piss anyone off at JCP because they had never given him reason to act the fool.

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                            • Spent last night and today, watching 2 absolute banging Starrcades, 83 and 85

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                              • That Flair/Dusty story is pretty amazing. Flair just hit his prime in 83 and Dusty met him in the locker room during the Champaign celebration. By 85, Flair was just trying to put Dusty in his hindsight. Dusty was the old lion, he couldn’t win the psychology game with
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