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  • #16
    It's been clear for a while that Punk is very comfortable financially. If he comes back to wrestle somewhere, it won't just be for the money. And yeah, the idea that he can't make a big payday somewhere else is just silly.

    The '92 Rumble! The Brain's Finest Hour!

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    • #17
      I honestly do not know, but I cannot see ROH or All In being a billion dollar company where they can afford to give an employee a multimillion dollar deal. The WWE through all of its faults has that type of capital and can afford to pay him. Japan probably does as well, but there is no way that ROH does.

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      • #18
        Definitely no million dollar deals in ROH, they are backed by Sinclair which absolutely dwarfs WWE as a corporation but it's not like they give them a huge budget to work with. But if New Japan pitched in, that could change things. Not sure what Jericho made for his one New Japan match but supposedly he generated an extra 1.5 million and I'm sure he got a big chunk of that. Reportedly All In is being independently financing but I've heard hints they have someone footing some of the big bills too so who knows what they might be able to drum up.

        It's moot anyway though, as Punk has pretty consistently not been motivated by money first and foremost. I think he'll do whatever wrestling he feels interested/passionate about, if anything.

        The '92 Rumble! The Brain's Finest Hour!

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        • #19
          Again, to play devils advocate, if you were to come back to wrestling after an extended time off, and fans everywhere have been dreaming/asking for it for the past 4 years, why wouldn’t you also try to get paid the most you could?

          I get it Punk May not be motivated by money, and he may not “need” anymore, but wrestlers are just like any other pro-athletes in that they want the huge contract, and they will play for a worse team to get paid. Cough Robinson Cano, Melky Cabrera, etc cough.

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          • #20
            Like i said, he could be offered the most money but if he's not happy with what he's presented and doing, i don't see it happening.. If WWE gave him everything wanted, then sure i could see it but we don't know what Punk would want. Also, i don't think its really about the fans.. and if it is, he can do conventions and work ALL in type shows. I don't think its about working Mania main events anymore.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Powder View Post
              Again, to play devils advocate, if you were to come back to wrestling after an extended time off, and fans everywhere have been dreaming/asking for it for the past 4 years, why wouldn’t you also try to get paid the most you could?
              He doesn't like WWE and he doesn't care about the money. Not everything is dollars and cents, man.

              The '92 Rumble! The Brain's Finest Hour!

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              • #22
                I agree with Mizfan here. If Punk has shown anything in leaving and his time away it is that he believes in principle and believes in challenging himself and leading a fulfilling life for himself more than money or public adulation. He is happy to have those but they are only a part of an equation and a small part at that.

                I also got the feeling he is generally a fairly bitter person who holds onto grudges longer than most. Combining that with what I've said above and I feel like it will be a long time before he works with the WWE again.

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                • #23
                  If the court records about his mental state in his final days are accurate, then he'd be a madman to go back whatever they offer.

                  "The worst moron is the one too stupid to realise they're a moron."

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                  • #24
                    May have spoken too soon about him being back in wrestling. Meltzer seems to be of the opinion that Punk is pretty committed to fighting beyond the weekend and would be looking to tackle something more minor league if cut from UFC, rather than heading back to wrestling.

                    I guess an absolute mauling might change that perspective in a hurry. But there's no guarantee that this hand picked opponent, who Mickey Gall beat just as easily I'm told, can beat him badly enough to drive him from the sport.

                    "The worst moron is the one too stupid to realise they're a moron."

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                    • #25
                      also been thrown out there that Punk could find a job commentating MMA if he so chose. I don't know why he'd keep fighting though if he got beat pretty bad on Saturday. Sure, go to minor leagues where you still will be outclassed for at least another year or so... Its not like he's 23 embarking on a whole new career.

                      I commend him for the effort and i don't care that much if he comes back to wrestling, but dude lived out a dream already, know when to step away.

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                      • #26
                        My guess is that he's thinking positive, not contemplating a bad beating. Going in thinking like that would be a good way to make it happen.

                        Still, if the offer were on the table, I guess it's really his call when he's lived his dream and when he should step away. Bellator has been suggested as a possibility and from talking with the guy who runs the MMA gym on the street around the corner from me, I get the impression the serious fight fans consider it a high standard. I can see why he'd be interested in giving it another couple of tries with them if an offer came.


                        Speaking of offers, the other thing to come out this week is he's only had roundabout suggestions, nothing concrete, about returning to wrestling.

                        "The worst moron is the one too stupid to realise they're a moron."

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                        • #27
                          I get that its his choice and all but UFC only brought him back a second time because they think he's a draw. I don't think any other place he will effect that much.. I guess Bellator since they take UFC's leftovers..I'm not even saying he's thinking about losing.... but after Saturday, the way it likely will turn out, its probably best for him to look for something else.

                          As for the wrestling thing, I'm not surprised no one has really given him a real offer. Any one who sent out feelers probably didn't even get the chance to go further or they know they wouldn't be able to afford him.

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                          • #28
                            I'm not sure I follow the logic. I'd have thought that if he was a draw, then relatively speaking he'd have more effect on a smaller company than a bigger one.

                            Like, he might draw fewer people in but if they are used to smaller numbers anyway, you don't need to bring so much in to be worth it.

                            The question then becomes how much his fans will follow if he gets badly beaten again, though I addressed the effect of that kind of result in the post four up anyway.

                            "The worst moron is the one too stupid to realise they're a moron."

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                            • #29
                              Punk looks pretty content with his life right now, at least based on the little I've seen of him this year. My guess is that if he wins this weekend, he'll keep up with MMA, and if he loses he still has a few other things going on his life that he looks happy doing.

                              At this point, I would wager that he won't ever return to pro wrestling again, not even one-offs. Just a feeling I have.

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                              • #30
                                I mean, WWE very publically supported Amaan in the lawsuit, a statement which is still on their website alongside a slow motion video of CM Punk's butt. See - https://www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-addre...nk-allegations

                                So given that this case has been found in favour of Punk and that there was no defamation of Amaan - which I, a non-legal person, would interpret as essentially saying that Punk's statements were broadly true - surely that means WWE are open for something from Punk now too? Like I said, I'm no legal person, so have no idea how this works, but it seems there's still a lot of love lost between the two.

                                I would also say there's a big difference between Lesnar and Goldberg walking away from WWE due to broad displeasure with the schedule and work they were doing. Even though Lesnar later brought a lawsuit, it was only over his non-compete clause and not company-wide incompetence, which Punk has deftly and clearly expressed from his time there on top of all the burnout issues and nagging injuries he had. I think Punk and WWE have a lot further to go to mend bridges than Lesnar/Goldberg and WWE did.

                                I can't see Punk ever coming back to WWE unless he ages, softens, and they offer him something like a HoF entry. And even then I could see him turning them down repeatedly, ala Bruno, before accepting when someone new reaches out to him, like HHH did to Bruno rather than Vince.

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