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  • #31
    With the exception of using a few colorful language he is really not that much different in his AEW promos than his promos on Seth during their feud. Taz, Cody, and MJF all do not feel stifled. Mox does. Or maybe its just that I do not see that much of a difference in the characters of Moxley and Ambrose, but with Moxley a little more free.

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    • #32
      I think you're right about his character, Moxley is pretty similar to Ambrose but with the intensity turned up and a lot of the goofy 'lunatic' stuff eliminated.

      I love his promos and think he is consistently one of the best promos in wrestling but would agree he has been coasting, without a crowd they certainly seem to lose some of their punch.

      I guess I'm hoping that having to go up against someone tearing strips off him so effectively will bring the best out of Mox.

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      • #33
        I heard something I found a bit hard to believe the other day. Apparently MJF has only had about 15 matches on TV and PPV since AEW started?!

        Anyway, apparently going up against Jericho again at the next PPV....

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        • #34
          He's had 6-7 so far this year so I'd say he's had more than 15 but not much more. Doubt he'd even have wrestled double. That is an issue I have with AEW that guys like MJF, FTR, Santana & Ortiz and countless others just don't wrestle enough. They definitely shouldn't be each and every week but for one of the top acts to only have wrestled 6 times in 8 months isn't enough for me, especially as he's young and still learning his trade and so could benefit from getting "more reps in".

          Although the addition of Rampage should help with that.
          Last edited by The Cook; 08-27-2021, 07:05 PM.

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          • #35
            It's only true if you are only counting singles matches. For whatever reason he has had almost as many tag matches as singles

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            • #36
              Ah, that makes sense. I guess it must have been one on one.

              Either way - it seems an odd way of doing it.

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              • #37
                I have been worried about MJF a lot through the feud with Jericho and the humor they've tried to run with but it feels like he's right back on track with Pullman Jr now.

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                • #38
                  Worried how? I thought the feud came off quite well for the most part. The Pillman stuff has been a bit over the top for me, I like MJF but I got "Eddie's in hell" vibes from his last promo, not what I think you wanna aim for.

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                  • #39
                    The problem maybe that since the WWE is 'too scripted' so AEW allows for more unscripted and Attitude Era type of promos to counter WWE's PG style. It seems like AEW wants to push that envelope that the WWE left.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by mizfan View Post
                      Worried how? I thought the feud came off quite well for the most part. The Pillman stuff has been a bit over the top for me, I like MJF but I got "Eddie's in hell" vibes from his last promo, not what I think you wanna aim for.
                      YMMV of course but I thought that feud started ok but got progressively worse until he came out of it in a worse place than he went in.

                      The Pillman feud is giving him some of his aura back and for me you need to get people a bit pissed off for that to happen.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Powder View Post
                        The problem maybe that since the WWE is 'too scripted' so AEW allows for more unscripted and Attitude Era type of promos to counter WWE's PG style. It seems like AEW wants to push that envelope that the WWE left.
                        Even for you, Powder, this is a boring talking point. MJF could cut most of his recent promo work in WWE without any problem of being within PG.

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                        • #42
                          Did you hear, he and TK had an altercation bc MJF didn’t get with AEW’s PR before doing an interview? So is it routine for Meltzer to clear each and every thing the talent is going to say before they do an interview?
                          Last edited by Benjamin Button; 03-29-2022, 03:51 AM.
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                          • #43
                            I'd say those two things are quite different - the MJF interview was a formal sit down thing, whereas Meltzer normally gets 'leaks' or whatever, doesn't he?

                            I'm not entirely surprised that Khan has taken a petty issue with something though. Nothing wrong in what MJF said, and the report isn't that he had any issue with the content, just the fact he didn't set it up through the right channels on the AEW side.

                            MJF, by the way, is spot on. He's an absolute jewel in the AEW crown.

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                            • #44
                              I believe it was mentioned or discussed here a long while back, but when everyone was hyping AEW for the freedom and the leeway Khan can give that Vince does not, someone replied that in a couple of years that will change. It's really great to offer freedom to get people excited and invested. But over time, you start to see why Vince doesn't offer it as much.

                              If this story is true...

                              Here's an example of the winds changing direction. 2 years ago, Tony wouldn't have made a stink about this. But now that AEW has 2 shows, an association with ROH, and a massive roster, Tony has a different perspective.

                              Don't be surprised if other similar changes take place. Maybe Tony will start mapping out spots so that they aren't repeated every match. Maybe promos will get slightly more planned, guided, or scripted by Tony. Maybe the variety of wrestling biking will be more evident.

                              Or, this is another fake story.

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                              • #45
                                I figured that the unlimited freedom wouldn't last too terribly long. MJF is likely in the wrong here and should have at least given someone at AEW a heads up that this interview was coming.

                                It's going from an indy environment, which AEW is treated as often times, to a more professional environment. And I could see why, especially with a guy who we still have to remember is only 26, it would become a thing.

                                But I highly doubt it was a "fuck you/fuck you" conversation. It was probably this:

                                Tony: Hey, don't just go into business for yourself booking interviews without telling us, that's not how we do things anymore.
                                MJF: What's the problem? I've always done this. It was a good interview.
                                Tony: That's not the point. We've changed the way we do things now and we need to let PR know so we can promote these things.
                                MJF: Well nobody fucking told me.
                                Tony: Well I'm telling you now.
                                MJF: Okay.

                                But it's wrestling, so even a minor disagreement is "heat" once it makes it to the dirt sheets.
                                Last edited by Team Farrell; 03-29-2022, 12:55 PM.
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