Marvel Cinematic Universe - All Marvel Movie/TV discussion

[Powder]

I just finished Daredevil season 3 and wow. It was good. Better than I expected, but I still maintain that there was some filler, and they could have cut the season down to 10 episodes. Regardless, the season was not just about watching Daredevil kick ass, and there is plenty, it is a season of character driven plot for everyone; Matt, Karen, Foggy, Fisk, Dex (Bullseye), and the FBI agent Nadeem.

The ending cleary sets up a season 4, and a few episodes have a cameo from a character from Luke Cage season 2, episode 13 has a nice and whimsical name drop. However, what I will never understand, at all, is Manhattan is NOT that big geographically, so why doesn't any of the defenders ask each other for help?

[meandi]

Cage and Jones are kind of loners, hence why they wouldn’t call the others up for help. I forget what lead Danny to showing up in Cage 2, but it wasn’t because Cage just randomly called him up for help. Matt did specifically ask Danny to watch over the city in The Defenders, but (I’m still on episode 5, so I don’t know what’s coming...) Matt is still supposedly dead and trying to hide that fact, which is why he wouldn’t call up any of the others. Danny doesn’t call up others because he’s the Iron Fist and his ego won’t allow help.

[Powder]

I get the loner thing, BUT Cage was introduced during Jessica Jones S1, Danny showed up during Luke Cage S2, AND they all decided to team up for the Defenders. AND Karen shows up and helps out Frank Castle in Punisher S! and 2. Claire Temple was in every Netflix season except Iron Fist 2 and DD 3, so why can't the "Super powered people" get over themselves and ask for help?

Also, with Karen having the battle of NY from the Avengers front pages of the newspapers hanging in her office, you would also think that at least one of the Avengers (or Spider-man) would take interest in Wilson Fisk and his criminal stature IN NYC as it was all over the news, and that Stark tower is in NY and Parker lives in NY.

AND since the Defenders clearly live in the Avengers universe, how are they are not affected by Thanos' snap? Now if all the series take place prior to the Snap, no problem, but if not, then how is no one talking about that half the population disappeared?

[meandi]

Late to the game (only MCU movies I go to see in the theatre are proper Avengers flicks), but I just watched Antman and the Wasp. I enjoyed it just as much as the first. Good action. Intriguing story. And Michael Pena is freaking awesome yet again. (He might be one of my most under-rated actors ever. He’s good doing serious stuff like Lions For Lambs or End Of Watch; he can also bring comedy like the Antman movies...)

[Powder]

This morning, I saw a TV ad for an upcoming airing of Iron Man 3, and it got me thinking. What in the hell ever happened to Pepper Pott's Extremis power? In IM3, the movie was good in that they explored the psychological damage done (PTSD) to Tony when he sacrificed himself in the Avengers by pushing the Nuclear Warhead into the wormhole to blow up the Chatauri's mother ship.

Then later on, they save pepper with the Extremis "power" for lack of a better term, and the movie ends with Tony saying "we will figure this out". Well nothing was ever mentioned about this again. Did pepper get cured of the Extremis? If so, by who, and when? if not, why was she not in the fight against Ultron, or Civil War, or Thanos as she now has super abilities.

The MCU is fantastic about continuity, but they dropped the ball on this one.

[meandi]

I can’t answer any of those questions, but apparently there were leaked photos of her with a green screen behind her for Avengers 4, so there’s speculation of her becoming Rescue. (I think that’s the correct name for her.) Maybe they’ll explain what’s happened to her during that movie? (I mean... half of the cast is gone for the first part of the movie... might as well focus on her and Clint and their whereabouts recently...)

[Mr Chop]

Hw says at the end of Iron Man 3 that he "got Pepper sorted out" which seems to imply she was de-extremisesed.

[meandi]

That would be really lazy writing if that’s how they explained it. (I honestly don’t remember... haven’t seen that movie since it came out in theatres.) However... I like how you just decided to invent a new word Mr. Chop.

[Rob S.]

Stan Lee has died at the age of 95.

[meandi]

^Sad. I’m going to miss the cameos. I think my three favorites are probably as the mailman in Civil War (Tony Stank...), Thor when he’s driving the truck trying to pull Mjolnir out of the ground, and Age of Ultron when Thor gives him the 1000 year old whisky or whatever kind of booze it was.

[LWO4Life]

Stan was a true culture changer. Like I've posted on my Facebook, he started writing comic book during a time when the Western was the big box office draw, and he helped shift the culture, with characters that relate to the modern American, shaped by the science revolution of the 60's and issues dealing with the civil rights movement of the 60's. The Culture Wars played out on paper and are now being retold as the blockbusters of their day.

[Prime Time]

Just seen on Twitter that Netflix have cancelled Daredevil?

[Powder]

YUP. Apparently Netflix has come to a standstill with creative over the Marvel Shows and they think there isn't much left to tell, story wise, so they cancelled the Marvel shows. Jessica Jones and Punisher are either filming or wrapping their season 3 so they will be released when completed, but after that, most likely they will be cancelled as well.

The big rumors going around is that the Disney Streaming Service will pick up all of the shows and continue them in some manner, but who knows. Netflix might own the rights to the shows as they plan on keeping the existing seasons on the network, but not making more. So I am not sure if DSS can make new seasons without being able to reference the past seasons. But again this is all rumor so who knows.....

[meandi]

I’m not buying the “nothing left to tell as far as storyline stuff goes”. The final scene of both Luke Cage 2 and Iron Fist 2 show they clearly had a plan for the third seasons of both shows. I’m almost positive this is just Disney putting any new stuff on hold until their service starts up. And then at that point, they’ll pick up with Cage 3 and Fist 3 are so on and so forth.

I’m also of the belief that new seasons will not only reference older seasons, but it will still all be canon, and it will be like we didn’t miss a beat. I’m almost Marvel learned their lesson selling off character’s rights in the past, and that they still retain all of the Netflix characters. If anything, there might be a small nod to Netflix in the credits. Kind of like how Paramount got a small credit up until the first Avengers movie after Disney bought Marvel and started distributing the movies themselves. Remember... Marvel Studios was making the movies, but they had no way for distribution, which is where Paramount and... maybe Universal(?) stepped in.

[comfortablynumb]

Yeah, as weird as it sounds, at that early time Marvel was an "independent studio."

I don't buy the "no more story to tell" line either. In Netflix's statement about Daredevil, their CEO or whatever was quoted as saying "Daredevil's adventures will continue to be told," making it sound like it's going to the Disney service.