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![]() ![]() ![]() You have just put down on metaphorical paper what I have been saying for years. I do believe however that Undertaker would be bigger if he lost at this years Wrestlemania. Picture this: Just for sake of argument say it is Ted DiBiase. Just think of how that make Taker's legacy look if he loses. Now I want you guys who watch UFC to look back to June at UFC100. Everyone was saying that Brock couldn't beat Frank Mir, because Mir had already beat him. Brock went in there and raped Mir, and now critics are saying that Brock is the best fighter in the world. Just because he avenged his one loss in such a dominating fashion. That's how it would work. And Make 'Taker loses at WM26 and "retire". He's gone for nearly a year when Ted starts shooting off his mouth about beating the Deadman at last years Mania. Then, GONG! Undertaker vs. DiBiase at WM27. This match would last all of five minutes and Taker would win in essentially a squash match. And let's just say that he is inducted into the Hall of Fame this year also. Legacy restored and people think that he is the greatest of all time, because he avenged his only WM loss in such a domintaing fashion. It would work. Good read, no mistakes that jumped out at me, and I'll look forward to reading your next column.
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JB, I absolutely LOVED how I felt like I was reading two different columns at the same time. It was almost as if it were two people discussing the same subject, but unless MyLeeCyrus hacked your account and threw in his two cents, that didn't happen. Splendid way of looking at both sides of the coin, if you will.
I 100% agree that Taker's WM streak is EVERYTHING to him. I too cannot recall any of his World Title reigns, and he's not a great wrestler, nor great on the mic, so the streak really is the only thing that makes him legendary. Another good point is that not only will the person that ends the streak not only not be remembered for that accomplishment, but he will almost definitely have a lifetime of heel heat by the older fans for ending the streak. Therefore, I fail to think of any good reason for having Taker lose at WM. Great column man, definitely one of the best of the week. |
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Another great read JB but I doubt that if the streak was broken that Undertaker would be forgotten quickly. After all he has been with the WWE for 19 years and he has had some unforgettable feuds. Also he has helped pioneer new match types for the company such as Hell In A Cell, Buried Alive and Casket. But I do agree that the undefeated streak is what separates him from other legends and Hall of Famers and that it should be preserved until he retires.
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BLASPHEMY!
Undertaker has been a main event staple in WWE for 18 years. I'm not going too much more into detail because the last 2 parts of my Undertaker series will be out sometime tonight or tomorrow. good grammar though dude..cant comment on the content because i dont believe it. EDIT: And about the streak, he pitched for BOTH Orton and Kane to end it, but they both declined. I dont think its his doing that he keeps his streak, because he constantly puts younger guys over and makes them look good.
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I agree with the bolded text although the main reaosn I dislike 'Taker is that his entrance takes forever.
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Taker should be gone, but the guy is the man in the locker room, and he's the best striker in the WWE for the past few years, ever since Austin went down. Him, Vader, Brody are the top 3 big men of all time, so eat it. He took a fucking zombie gimmick and made it last for 15+ years, and has been an accepted Main Eventer when started.
But yeah, he needs to go, so fuck him. |
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So I take it Mylee is your brother.
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I did not find anything wrong with your post, except the blatant fact that the premise itself is horribly wrong.
The Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak wasn't even a big deal until he had already been with the WWE and established for a long time. It is something that is unique to him, much the way Brett Favre will always be remembered for the most consecutive starts, but that doesn't mean that is all Brett Favre has going for him. I think the reality is that The Undertaker is THE standard for all big men in wrestling, period. In fact, I would go so far as to say that even if the streak never happened, The Undertaker would be a legendary main eventer and future hall of famer. It would probably be a bad idea to break the streak, but it is not all The Undertaker has. In fact, I can tell you exactly what The Undertaker has. Charisma. He has the ability to connect with an audience. I've had a saying about Undertaker that I have been using for a while when discussing wrestling and it is this, "The Undertaker gets more cheers for doing less than any main eventer ever." Now, that could be construed as a negative or positive, I suppose, but he is loved by fans around the world. All he has to do is utter the words, "Rest in peace," and the fans will go nuts and leave the arena happy. The Undertaker is now in such a position that he can basically make a great face into a heel for a single match if he is facing The Undertaker. In fact, I think I can give more than a few examples. Take the ten year anniversary of Smackdown this past friday. The Rock was getting a crazy loud response from the crowd, but when he mentioned how he "whipped The Undertaker's ass," the crowd began to boo him. Take the career of Kane, which was established very early on basically because of The Undertaker, who took a completely fresh wrestler and made him a main eventer just by virture of interacting with him. The association with The Undertaker is the only reason Kane even exists. Go back and watch the reaction when Kane comes to help The Undertaker at the Royal Rumble where Undertaker faced Shawn Michaels and then listen to how quickly and fiercely the crowd turns on Kane when he turns on The Undertaker. Take the case of Mick Foley. Another newcomer to the WWE audience that was basically shot up into the upper tier due to his feud with The Undertaker. In fact, Mick Foley might not have had the great career in the WWE that he had if he had not quickly established himself in his first feud with The Deadman. Especially, if The Undertaker had not thrown him off the HIAC... Take the case of Brock Lesnar. A man who was a huge deal when he debuted, but truly it was his feud that ended in a HIAC match with The Undertaker which put him over the top. In fact, Randy Orton may not be the man we know today were it not his great HIAC ending feud with The Undertaker. The WWE trusts The Undertaker as a great first step for all future main eventers. Why? Because The Undertaker connects with a crowd in a way that almost no one else in the WWE past, present, or even future has been able to. It makes sense that all those looking to become big stars would go through The Undertaker. The WWE seems to believe, as I believe, that if someone can't get themselves noticed by the fans by feuding with The Undertaker, then they probably can't make it in the WWE at all. The WWE will be a much more depressing place once The Undertaker finally does retire. Sure, he may be older now, but the crowd still gets more excited by The Undertaker's gong than by any million flashy moves that JoMo can whip out on any given night. Trust me, the crowd reaction that Undertaker vs. HBK got at WM is certainly something that will take a long time to get out of any of these young guys. The Undertaker is a class of wrestler that the WWE is sorely lacking right now (besides HBK) and that is people who know how to truly get the audience involved and excited. The WWE Universe will have a giant gaping hole that no current WWE main eventer can fill once the Deadman finally goes. |
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Good column JB, although I do have to disagree with your notion that 'Taker is 'fucking useless'.
It was only 6 months ago when he put on one of the best matches of all-time with Shawn Michaels that went over 30 minutes. Just because his match with Punk only went 9 minutes doesn't mean he's past it. That match was meant to go longer but like a lot of the main events as of late had to be cut short due to other things running over time. It was also his first match in 5 and a half months and he probably wasn't 'match fit' so to say. Yes his knees are shot to pieces but he can still go in the ring and put on fantastic matches. I wouldn't be surprised to see his bout with Punk be match of the night and I can guarantee it will go at least 20 minutes (unless other things overrun again). Also I do agree with you that people who say that the Last Ride isn't with his gimmick are idiots but 'Taker did do the Last Ride properly on Michaels at 'Mania, and in every match he had with Edge last year. Big Show, Vladimir Kozlov & Batista are all too big for him to do it on and they are the three other feuds he's had over the last two and a half years along with Michaels & Edge. |
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God damn you motherfucker! I was just working on a section to my next column which was similar to this, now I'm going to have to make it drastically different in order for it not to look like a copycat.
Anyway, this was pretty cool man, I liked the sensible logical approach and the "flaming" paragraph after it. I don't agree with you one hundred percent, but I'm sure you don't care. It's not the best column you've ever produced, but it was still solid and entertaining all the same. Nice one.
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Now this is what I'm talking about JB!
As much as I love the Undertaker there is absolutely no fucking denying that he's past it, just like Shawn, Trips (well, he's not, but there are other reasons, "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan (huh?), Batista, Kane ( ), and any of the other old farts. I like some of them and I hate some of them, but either way, they need to go if the WWE is going to progress any farther. As of now, they've ground to a complete standstill and they're turning around to fucking slowly for my taste. It sucks really.It may have been short, but I enjoyed the hell out of this, despite the cold, hard dose of reality. |
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