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02-19-2009, 12:59 PM
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Top Black Performers in Wrestling
Humoring the MAI/Troll/Person setting back black people everywhere, here's something I came up with purely based on speculation and personal opinion. Agree? Disagree? Why? I'd like to hear your thoughts
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Another question is that with a seeming excess of prominent black wrestlers in the top two companies of North America, do you think that there is a racial stigma in the world of professional wrestling?
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02-19-2009, 01:01 PM
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MVP over Monty Brown in charisma.
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02-19-2009, 01:02 PM
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With threads like this? I'd say so.
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02-19-2009, 02:33 PM
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What about Mark Henry? He may not be the most mobile or agile, but he's a good vet to have in the locker room, especially for the mostly un-initiated ECW locker room.
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02-19-2009, 09:04 PM
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I'm not doubting it, I just never knew...
Tazz is black? I just thought he had a darker skin tone. What nationality I thought he was, never gave that a thought.
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02-20-2009, 12:49 AM
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Tazz or Taz's real name is Peter Senerchia and um he is billed as being from Red Hook which is mostly italian american, Taz is Italian-American but yeah.
I think it was Tony Atlas who said that it is beneficial to be a Black Wrestler because there are less blacks in the sport, so when a promoter is trying to capture the dynamic or to not be shown as a racist then you will receive a push, i think he used Virgil as an example.
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02-20-2009, 02:23 PM
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Tazz is half-black.
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02-20-2009, 02:47 PM
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Oh and for clarification. The reason I didn't include the likes of Koko B. Ware or Tony Atlas or JYD or even Rocky Johnson was because I wasn't born during that era and thus my knowledge of those performers is slim to limited.
Which is why I asked what are other people's opinions. So they can teach me something.
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02-20-2009, 03:00 PM
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My view is that guys like Koko, Tony Atlas, JYD, Ernie Ladd, Abdullah The Butcher, SD Jones and Rocky Johnson to name a few really laid the groundwork and paved the way for guys like Elijah Burke and Jay Lethal but wrestling has changed so much over the years that I can't really make a valid comparison across the generational gap. My knowledge, similarly to you, is not in depth on this subject matter but I have watched a lot of older matches and think it is fair to say that without the JYDs and Rocky Johnsons of the industry there wouldn't be the Burkes and Benjamins. However, I could be wrong in some of the things i've said and will happily stand corrected.
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02-23-2009, 08:26 AM
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You seem to have forgotten Mo from Men on a Mission!
 Oh and the only black men to paralyze another Wrestler.... D Lo! And the awesomeness that was Ahmed Johnson!! OMG And let us not forget.... The Boogeyman - cos he WILL come to get us!!
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02-23-2009, 10:21 AM
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I've been waiting on this thread. I need to represent my fellow African Americans. Since I was born in 83, I guess I was around to see it all. Here is my best black wrestlers. This was very easy for me, some make be confuse a little, but I'll explain later.
20. Brickhouse Brown (Very Athletic-Great Mat Work, he probably was the Shelton Benjamin of the late 80's early 90's bad timing, too many stars) 19. KoKo B Ware (He had a great kids gimmick)/Godfather (Great Mature Gimmick) 18. Ahmed Johnson/Bobby Lashley (still bitter over these two. The biggest dissapointment IMO.) 17. Mr.T (without Mr. T celebrity name, would WM be here, Who didn't watch the A-Team? Ask somebody) 16. Slick (Manager),Theodore Long (Crooked Ref, Turns Manager, Turns GM) 15. Pistol Pez Whatley (Willie B Hert) 14. Awesome Kong (The Best Female Wrestler Today) 13. The Natural Butch Reid (Loads of Charisma) 12. New Jack (Legit Badass/The reason I watched ECW) 11. 2 Cold Scorpio (The Most Underrated Wrestler of all Times/Never gets credit for his style that paved the way for the Cruiserweights/X Division-No Scorpio means no 450 Splash or Moonsault Legdrop or any other move he decided to come up with) 10. Iceman King Parsons (The best Mic Worker of all times) 09. Ron Simmons (The Leader/First Black World Champion) 08. Bad News Brown (THE TRUTH) 07. Jacqueline (What a 17 Times Womens Champ/The First WWF Women Division Champ Restart/Help restart the Knockout Division/Chyna before there was a Chyna, Kevin Sullivan's Manager Enough Said) 06. Brother Devon Dudley (One half of the arguably The Greatest Tag Team in Wrestling History) 05. Shelton Benjamin (Best Wrestler) 04. Kamala (Drawing Power 80's Heat)/Abdullah The Butcher (Hardcore Legend) 03. Booker T (Accomplished Wrestler) 02. Junkyard Dog (Trend-Setter) 01. The Rock (Superstar) Honorable Mentions: Mark Henry, Jazz, Action Jackson, 'Wildman' Marc Mero, D'lo Brown, Last but not least Dusty Rhodes, Akeem 'The African' Dream, & John Cena  Future I see MVP being on a lot of yougins top 10 Cryme Tyme if everything goes well are over too. Human Tornado is a fav all ready. Blacks has definitely made their mark in professional wrestling. Last edited by LHARR; 02-25-2009 at 10:35 PM.
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02-28-2009, 11:36 PM
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^^^^^^ Great list.
Other wrestlers like ICE TRAIN and Swoll and 4x4 could of been good I think had they been used right. I'm trying to think of ones who havent been named yet Ron H2O Waterman Charles The Hammer Evans Slick Zeus (hey he did wrestle once or twice) Consquences Creed Not sure if I can name anymore
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03-01-2009, 04:51 PM
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My list, off the top of my head...
I'm not going to include The Rock for 2 reasons - (1) If I did, he'd be number 1 anyway, which would make my list less interesting, and (2) He's half-Samoan. In the same way, I wouldn't put him on a list of the all-time greatest Samoans. The Rock was so great, he transcended wrestling and even race, I guess. My point is - The Rock gets enough praise; he doesn't need to also get the rub as "The Best Black Wrestler Ever." I'd just like to let someone else get that honor. 1. Booker T 2. Ron Simmons 3. Shelton Benjamin 4. Junkyard Dog 5. 2 Cold Scorpio 6. Norman Smiley 7. Bad News Brown 8. Abdullah The Butcher 9. Ernest "The Cat" Miller 10. Antonio "MVP" Banks 11. Ron Killings 12. Bobby Lashley 13. Kamala 14. Koko B. Ware 15. Mark Henry
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03-10-2009, 12:27 AM
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ive recently asked a few people who are bigger ECW fans then me and the answers ive heard that Taz is of Sicilian decent which is very close to africa and has much moor infuence then mainland italy.
Abdullah The Butcher should be concidered one of the best wrestlers of all time. Vs The real Randy the Ram http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OFyTnL9JT4
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03-12-2009, 04:49 AM
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Ernie Ladd and Iceman King Parsons don't get enough credit. Same can be said for Bobo Brazil.
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03-12-2009, 09:59 AM
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03-12-2009, 10:09 AM
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 Glad someone mentioned Action Jackson. Had the pleasure of actually seeing the man wrestle. Probably not as awesome as he was in the 80's, but he was still good. I always enjoyed D'Lo for his combination of size and agility. Bad News Brown=Bad Ass! Nuff said. Booker T has been a favorite of mine since the Harlem Heat days. Will add more faves when I am more awake. 
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03-12-2009, 10:10 AM
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03-14-2009, 06:19 PM
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What no Chilly Willy or Rocky King (NWA) or Stevie Ray?!
I like this thread. I also used to wonder if Taz was half-black. Does anyone know for sure? Because i'm very curious to know..
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03-15-2009, 03:13 AM
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Stevie Ray is one of the greatest commentators the industry has ever known.
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03-24-2009, 05:23 PM
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According to Wikipedia, at the bottom of his page, he's listed under African-American Wrestlers.
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03-24-2009, 11:35 PM
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yeah but honestly I could change that, its WIKI
and i dont know how good yall Geography is but he is a confirmed Sicillian and where is that part of Italy? very close to africa and has a very strong moorish influence. Much more (no pun) then mainland italy.
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03-25-2009, 06:34 PM
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Yes, but did they have their own album?
 "Mr. Irresistible" Sweet Daddy Siki did. I can only dream about being this suave.
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03-25-2009, 07:49 PM
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10- D'Lo Brown (way too much underrated IMO)
9- Jay Lethal (very good athleticism) 8- Jacqueline (what can i say? one of the best women wrestlers of all times) 7- D-Von Dudley (half, not counting Spike, of the best tag team in the History of professional wrestling, IMO) 6- Bobby Lashley (good wrestler, great entertainer) 5- Homicide (very cool to watch. Does some crazy moves. Great athleticism) 4- MVP (One of the hottest prospects of this business ... with the experience he'll gain he might become one of the best mic workers ever ... has loads of charisma) 3- Shelton Benjamin (just very good wrestler with awesome athleticism) 2- Booker T (great wrestler which i think just lacks a bit more in-ring ability ... apart from that this guy has it all) 1- The Rock (same as Booker, but The Rock is just over the top in every other field)
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03-26-2009, 08:56 AM
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how is The Rock blacker than Homicide?
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03-26-2009, 12:03 PM
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Because he is half Alfrican-American. Homicide isn't at all.
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