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"Now you'll never see / What you've done to me / You can take back your memories / They're no good to me / And here's all your lies / You can't look me in the eyes / With the sad, sad look / That you wear so well / When you see my face / Hope it gives you hell / Hope it gives you hell / When you walk my way / Hope it gives you hell / Hope it gives you hell / When you find a man that's worth a damn and treats you well / Then he's a fool you're just as well / Hope it gives you hell..." ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS: Gives You Hell from the album When The World Comes Down. - - Sucks that Dom DeLuise passed away this week. Dude was hilarious in everything he was in. - - Friday Night Smackdown is officially "the shit" as the saying goes. You would think being "the shit" would be a bad thing, but it isn't. RAW on the other hand, well it was shit. See the difference? - - More Tyson Kidd vs. Evan Bourne, please WWE? - - You know what's fun, besides bouncy balls? Watching Ron Paul school Ben Bernanke and then Helicopter Ben speaking out of his ass in response. Good times. - - We gonna get funky like a monkey, 'cuz I'm Stinger and this is A View From the Rafters #90: Wrestling Myth Busting Volume II! ![]() Welcome wrestling fans and little Stinger's the world over, to the ninetieth edition of A View From the Rafters. I of course am the man known as Stinger, and today we're gonna do some myth busting with some very special guest who you all know and love. This edition will also see the crowning of Miss AVFR, with the third and final round being "Stinger's Decision". Who will it be? I know rounds one and two both ended in ties, so I'm sure a few of you are thinking I'm going to cheat and end the whole thing in a tie (threesomes for the win!), but I guarantee there will be one single winner crowned at the end of this column. So with being said, let's just dive right into the second volume of... ![]() Within the Internet Wrestling Community, there exist a lot of myths or opinions that are rattled off as if they're facts. If there is one thing about the IWC that I do not like, it's the constant repeating of phrases that have little basis in reality, yet is assumed and spoken by many to be fact. You've all encountered some of these sayings or beliefs before. Well back in March 2006, I put together a little panel to study a few myths, to decide what was fact and what was fiction. My panel consisted of J-Man, Dr. Chad Matthews and XtremeGirly789. The results of this study was published on the LOP Forums in March 2006 as the 57th edition of AVFR under the title Wrestling Myth Busting Vol. I. Four myths were examined in that edition of WMB, all four myths busted, and those four were as follows: - "WWE only pushes untalented big wrestlers" - "WWE is racist towards non-white wrestlers" - "The toned down style of WWE hurts the product" - "Bad gimmicks kill talented wrestlers careers" What you are about to read is Volume II of Wrestling Myth Busting. Four new myths will be put to the test and they'll end up either confirmed, or busted. I've enlisted the help of four individuals to help study these myths and help me decide which ones to bust. Each individual is examining a different myth, and they will report back to me with their analysis, afterwards, I weigh in with the results of my own study and the final verdict. Before we get started, lets take a moment to meet our panel of experts.
![]() STUDY #1: TNA IS LAST DAYS WCW REINCARNATED STUDY EXPERT: Dr. Monkey Quote:
TNA, for whatever reason, doesn't get the credit it deserves. Have their shows sucked in the past? Of course they have, the same can be said of WWE. It's not a perfect entity, what company is? WCW went out of business though, TNA has defied the odds and has been around for coming up on seven years, when most people didn't them two months in the beginning. Weekly pay-per-views were suppose to kill TNA. That didn't happen, so it was getting off FSN that was going to kill TNA, and of course that didn't happen either. Following that TNA was in the red all these years, weren't making any money, and that was going to kill TNA. Yet there they are, continuing on doing their thing. In spite of all the doom and gloom, last days WCW talk, TNA has went from a weekly PPV system to one hour on Spike, to hours on Spike and are currently enjoying their highest ratings ever. That means they're gaining viewers, not losing them as WCW was. Say what you want about Mick Foley, but he's really freshened up his act on TNA and is more like the Foley of old than he has been in years. The guy is entertaining and has consistently been one of the highlights of Impact, each and every week. The Main Event Mafia is still going strong, and it's far better than say NWO 2000. AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels are back in important roles and are ascending to the top of the mountain once again, the same can be said for Samoa Joe. Bobby Lashley's arrival as peaked my interest in the product, and I'm not even a Lashley fan. The tag team division is extremely hot in TNA, the knockouts division is still good and the X-Division is still, well it's still there and maybe improving some. While Impact could certainly stand to have more wrestling on the show, TNA is currently firing on all cylinders and I haven't enjoyed TNA this much since mid-to-late 2005. Last days WCW? Hardly. They may have been close at one time, or indeed even there, but that phrase simply doesn't hold water anymore. MYTH BUSTED! ![]() STUDY #2: TAG TEAM WRESTLING IS DEAD IN THE UNITED STATES STUDY EXPERT: Johnny Boomerang Quote:
Tag teams certainly aren't dead in WWE either, although WWE definitely doesn't pay much attention to the division. The Colons have all the tools necessary to be a great team, as does Priceless. Like Mr. Boom said though, WWE teams are, for the most part, thrown together teams that ultimately mean nothing. WWE loves the style of tag team wrestling, as evident by the fact that you see numerous tag matches on their shows, usually one big name star teaming with another. They obviously don't care enough to once again have a meaningful division, but that can always change and the potential is definitely there. This myth is obviously a bust, and that's solely based on TNA. Factoring in WWE, ROH, and NWA, and the case against tag team wrestling only further dissolves. I love tag team wrestling, I want to see it return in WWE to its previous glory, but right now I am more than satisfied with getting my tag team fix from Impact every week. Hell, for that matter, available now from TNA is Second 2 None: Worlds Toughest Tag Teams (2-disc DVD). And coming soon from WWE, Allied Powers: The World's Greatest Tag Teams (3-disc set). Pick up a copy of both, if you like tag team wrestling, especially that WWE one once it comes out, because it is stacked with awesomeness. MYTH BUSTED! ![]() STUDY #3: JOHN CENA SUCKS AS A WRESTLER STUDY EXPERT: Dr. Chad Matthews Quote:
You know, I'm far from the guys biggest fan. I don't dislike him, he's just not amongst my favorite performers. But, I do respect the man, his passion for wrestling and everything he has done in a WWE ring. There is no possible way a wrestler can "suck", yet have been in as many good to great matches as John Cena has been in. It simply isn't going to happen. Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior sucked as wrestlers, hence they didn't have nearly as many "good" matches as Cena has had. No one will ever mistake Cena for Curt Hennig, but he is at least as good as The Rock. Since coming into WWE in 2002, Cena has grown into a well rounded wrestler, who knows what his strengths and weaknesses are, and plays to his strengths. John is said to be extremely passionate about the business, a real student of the game, and I think over the last several years, that has been shown true. Cena is the perfect fit for WWE, he's a great "WWE wrestler" or sports-entertainer. Would he be great in a place like Ring of Honor, of course not, he doesn't possess the pure wrestling ability of half of the ROH roster. But who cares, there's more to professional wrestling than being extremely technical. Cena excels in brawls and matches of that nature. He has a connection with the audience that brings them to life when he's in the ring, either to boo him or cheer him, and that always ups the memorable status of the match. Very few can get the crowd up and hollering the way John Cena can. He's not Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle or Bret Hart, but John Cena far from sucks. MYTH BUSTED! ![]() STUDY #4: DAVID ARQUETTE'S REIGN AS WCW CHAMPION KILLED THAT TITLE STUDY EXPERT: lenjr04 Quote:
Sting - 9-12-99 / Vacant - 10-25-99 / Bret Hart - 11-21-99/ Vacant - 12-20-99 / Bret Hart - 12-20-99 / Vacant - 01-16-00 / Chris Benoit - 01-16-00 / Vacant - 01-17-00 / Sid Vicious - 01-24-00 / Vacant - 01-25-00/ Kevin Nash - 01-25-00 / Sid Vicious - 01-25-00 / Vacant - 04-10-00 What the hell is that? Six vacancies, in less than a year? Look at January alone, laughable. That title meant nothing by this point. Who cares that David Arquette held this title for a week or two, to promote a shitty movie? It meant nothing, no harm done because the title was pointless. But lets look at the championship right prior to Arquette winning it and afterwards to see what we have: Jeff Jarrett - 04-16-00 / Dallas Page - 04-24-00 / David Arquette - 04-25-00 / Jeff Jarrett - 05-07-00 / Ric Flair - 05-15-00 / Jeff Jarrett - 05-22-00 / Kevin Nash - 05-23-00 / Ric Flair - 05-29-00 / Jeff Jarrett - 05-29-00 Nine title changes in a little over a month. The title really means nothing when it changes hands every week or two and sometimes the next day and same day. Now I’m not saying that someone has to be champion for a year or two for the title to mean anything, but damn at least give the champion time to put the damn belt around his waist. And if the “best” loses the title that often, then the best must really suck. By this point in time in WCW, the title was so severely diminished and a laughing stock, Courtney Cox-Arquette could have won the damn thing and wouldn't have killed the title anymore than the horrendous booking had already done and would continue to do. While Arquette winning the championship may indeed be laughable to all of us now, the entire promotion was laughable both before and after to the point where his winning the championship had little impact on anything. MYTH BUSTED! And that concludes our study for this edition of Wrestling Myth Busting. Speaking of Mythbusters, this one is for you Jimmy. Enjoy! ![]() ![]() The moment of truth has arrived, it is now time to end the Battle to Crown Miss AVFR. After two rounds of hot and steamy action, we still have a tie with each of the lovely competitors having 14 points. That makes this round, the third and final round, that much harder on me. There can be no tie in this competition, there must be a single winner. It's time for Stinger's Decision. ZOOEY DESCHANEL - I've heard people say that you're not a good actress and that every character you play comes off exactly the same, but I have no qualms admitting that you are my favorite actress and that I've loved everything you've played in. Beyond just being a great actress, you're also a wonderful singer. I apologize for not purchasing your CD, but I figure once it's downloaded and burned, no sense wasting money on it, ya dig? Of course you dig, you're cool like that. Whether you're Kit, Kat or Miss Pussy Katz, you fucking rule the screen. I've July 17th marked on my calendar right now and Tin Man in my DVD player. You don't have anything to do with wrestling, and you probably don't even like it, and this is a wrestling column, so maybe you aren't exactly the best person to adorn the coveted AVFR banner each week. That brings us to your opponent. KATIE LEA - My dear Kat, how I wish you could wrestle every week on television. It's a shame that WWE simply does not recognize your awesomeness, be it on the mic or most definitely in the ring. You can wrestle circles around practically the entire women's division, blindfolded. I write a wrestling column, I obviously like professional wrestling, so to me, any chick that not only likes wrestling, but takes the time to learn to wrestle exceptionally well is pretty close to being the perfect lass in my book (or column as the case may be). You've wrestled in Europe, you've wrestled in SHIMMER, you've competed in Ladder Match's and you deserve to be WWE Women's Champion, or at the very least Diva's Champion. Part of me wishes you were in TNA, for at least then you might actually get to wrestle on TV and not be a valet. As an extremely hot women's wrestler, you're quite perfect for the role of AVFR cover girl. Stinger's Decision: 'Tis a hard decision to make. My current favorite female wrestler, or my favorite actress? I think I'm going to have to go with... *Door to the rafters slams open.* ![]() WHOA, fuck no! This kind of thing may be allowed to fly in Miss WrestleMania contest, but it most certainly will not be tolerated here in the rafters. You're not Miss AVFR, Santina, now be gone. *Stinger pushes Santina, she falls from the rafters and hits the floor below.* Okay, here's what happened; she was devastated because she wasn't crowned Miss AVFR, so she jumped. Got it? Good. Now then, the real Miss AVFR, winning with a final score of 19 to 18, is none other than... ![]() ZOOEY DESCHANEL - MISS AVFR ![]() Unfortunately, that brings us to the end of this weeks edition of AVFR. I hope that turned out well, I think it did. I want to again thank Dr. Monkey, Johnny Boomerang, Dr. Chad Matthews and lenjr04 for their help with this column by taking the time to provide me with their reports on my "myths". Also, congratulations to Zooey Deschanel, who, albeit unbeknownst to her, was just crowned Miss AVFR. She should be proud of the fact that her likeness will be used to market an Internet wrestling column on a message board. Before we go, be sure and read The BMF's Present: Kings or Bankers, Who Rules The World?, the second edition of the column co-written by Jules and I (and we'd love to know what you think about it). I'll see you all again next week with a brand new column, but until then, this has been Stinger bringing you A View From the Rafters #90. The sting stops here. - Stinger
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I haven't read the column yet and I'm just about to but...
Dom DeLuise died?!? Holy shit! That's a big loss right there. EDIT: OK, I'm back after that mourning. This was excellent as always Stinger. While I wouldn't necessarily agree with some of the statements, I absolutely agree on the John Cena myth. Cena is not a terrible wrestler, far from it as a matter of fact. Yes he's had terrible matches (ones with JBL stick out in my mind) but he's had some really good matches as well with Edge, Shawn Michaels, Umaga and HHH. Excellent as always, but I still can't get over the death of Dom DeLuise. Guy was awesome at everything he did. Hard not to like him. Last edited by NightofDay; 05-06-2009 at 01:28 PM. |
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You're lucky we've just ranked you #1, sir, because the moment I saw those lyrics, I was about to click 'Back'. Horrible song. Horrible.
Smackdown last week was the best WWE show this year by a country mile. By all accounts, this week's one will be pretty good too. Raw, on the other hand, appears to be a platform of self-indulgence for one Shane McMahon right now. I'm disappointed you didn't bust the myth about PG-13, but you had a nice little range of topics that were well covered by your panel and yourself. It was clear from the off Zooey would win, but still, that was a fun little feature. You're like the CF's Liquorice Allsorts...never know what you'll get. It's always good though. Great stuff, sir, as if I was expecting anything else.
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Awesome stuff man. First off, completely agree with you on the whole smackdown is the (good) shit!
Anyways, the whole column was intriguing (I do mean that as a great compliment by the way!) I especially enjoyed the Cena myth busting. I was one who firmly hated Cena in the ring and as a result simply disregarded him. However, I've grown to appreciate what he offers to a WWE audience, If you love him or hate him EVERYONE has formed an opinion on him and that is one objective for a wrestler, no-one needs those Charlie Haas pops. As for his in-ring work, you're obviously right, he's never going to be Bret Hart but I appreciate the fact he cares enough about the business and all the fans that he wants to improve, whether to prove a point to the critics or as a thanks to his fans. I'm never going to be Cena's no.1 fan, but that being said I have a heep of respect for the man, he could easily not bother to put the effort in and carry on main eventing and selling his shirts, so credit where it's due. That being said it can take one salute and I'm back to where I started! Oh, and I'm happy to see Zooey prevailed! Great stuff, man! flawless. Nova. |
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Stinger, wow man, reeking of awesomeness, even if 33%ish of the column was written by other guys =P
There's an old saying "They call them clichés because they're true". I suppose that in itself is a cliché and therefore the whole sentence is self-fulfilling, but that's by the by. I'm glad that in each myth that was busted it was acknowledged that there was an element of truth to it, and it was understandable why some fans would feel the way they often do. Cena has suffered from 2 poor wrestlemanias in a row. His 2007 match with Michaels WAS a MOTY candidate in my opinion...but since then his ring time has waned. Sad, as he even got a great match out of Lashley at the GAB. Granted his matches with Swagger and Edge have been a return to form, so maybe he can carry on from there and be the guy who made a believer out of me. Ready To Rumble was awesome, end of. Great column. Always enjoyable, thoroughly readable, and 100% desirable. (my room's 207, key is under the mat...baybee!) |
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Stinger, this was excellent work as always. I have to agree that these myths are just that - myths, and the analysis that you (and your guests) put forth was great. I wasn't aware that the WCW title scene had become that much of a clusterfuck - it's like the 24/7 hardcore title!
Yay for Zooe winning! If Katie Lea needs consoling, I'd be happy to oblige. Read ya next time dude. TTC
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Dammit, how could i so foolishly misrepresent that question??
Apart from my shortsightedness, this was fantastic as per usual, which considering it's your 90th should come as no surprise. Very good stuff. |
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Brilliant man. The arguements were well constructed and the 4 arguements were all interesting as they are hot topics in the IWC. The thing I agreed with the most was the tag team section as like you said, TNA's tag team division is awesome. I'm sure you know of the tag team DVD they are releasing soon called "Second to none" and rightfully so.
This must return again some day.
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This was very enjoyable, and not just because I was a small part of it. You supplemented the "expert" opinions very nicely, and your Miss AVFR stuff was there, too. Stellar work, and I hope to see one of these again soon (I'll be glad to debunk a Mike Adamle myth, if you wish...
As an aside, anyone else find it odd that two people from History of the World Part I have died within a few weeks of each other (Bea Arthur and Dom)? Just sayin'. --Leonard
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Not since Danny Ocean has someone put such a great team together. Well done to the real doc, the fake doc, Lenny and Johnny. Stinger, I loved this column and I hope it is not another 3 years til you decide to bust some more myths. I actually agreed with pretty much everything said here. Well done and your hot form continues.
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I honestly enjoyed the column the instant I discovered another AAR fan. Rok on!
![]() For the rest of the column, considering it's the first time I read one of your works, it was almost flawless. Your myth-busters were really similar to FACT OR FICTION (which I love btw), but different at the same time. Loved it! An outstanding column top to bottom. 5 *s! |
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I love you for putting Kari Byron's booty in this column. I was watching a Mythbusters marathon and I instantly thought of you. You are my hero Stinger. But seriously, you deserve all the praise you're getting this month. The crime that was once you not getting a COTM is now rectified.
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As everyone else has said this was really well done. The myths picked were good ones and the writing by you (and the others) was great! I'd like to read more of this kind thing in the future. All in all a great column.
Poor Katie Lea, I still love her
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NoD - Dom's death sucked big time, dude was totally awesome for sure. I actually liked Cena/JBL, or more specifically their I Quit Match from JD 2005. Thanks for the feedback.
Joey - Not my favorite song, but I don't mind it. I have a lot of stuff on my computer and the opening lyrics are (9 out of 10 times) whatever is playing as I start to write the intro. I didn't even think about the PG-13 myth, but thanks for pointing it out, if I do a Vol. 3 anytime soon, it'll definitely be in it. Appreciate the feedback man. Nova - Zooey is happy she prevailed too. Thanks for reading and dropping some feedback. Pete - I might have to get other folks to write parts of my column for me all the time, it's much easier that way. Nah, but thanks, I'm glad you thought it was awesome. Although you thought Ready To Rumble was awesome as well, so I think your awesome guage may be broken. Actually, I didn't mind Ready To Rumble too much, not my favorite film, but I don't hate it either. I'll print this out and sign it, and slide it under your door, I'm afraid to enter though. No, but thank you kindly good sir, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for feedback. TTC - A clusterfuck indeed, god how I hated WCW in that time period. I've already consoled Katie, she wasn't taking the loss very well at all. Appreciate the read and feedback. J-Boom - Simple, most folks just don't think of TNA. Thank you for helping me out. Box Car - Yep, I know about that TNA tag team DVD (even plugged it in the column), and I plan on getting it this weekend. It likely will return again, when I don't know. Leo - Thanks for helping me, and maybe the next time I'll do a Adamle myth and acquire your services again. Yeah, not a good month for History of the World. Hopefully no one else drops dead. Thanks for reading. The Maz - Thank you very much, and I'm quite sure it will not be another 3 years before I do this again. Maybe in another month? Appreciate the feedback. Super Chrisss - A first time reader, sweet. Five stars is also sweet. Thanks! Jimmy! - I know, Kari Byron's booty is all kinds of awesome and that was just for you buddy. I'll have to post that to your wall, or whatever the hell it's called. Thanks. Mike - It'll return sometime relatively soon, another month or two. I appreciate you reading and leaving some feedback. I also still love Katie Lea, it was a hard decision to make.
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As previously mentioned this was a very enjoyable column to read, as I never watched WCW ( I know shock horror) I cannot comment on the WCW title picture or the similarities between the current TNA product and the “ last days” of WCW myths. However, I do feel as though the tag division myth was correctly analysed both by you and your “expert”. If only Vince would go and rape TNA of the Machine Guns, Beer Money, LAX and put Hass and Benjamin together then maybe the WWE would have one hell of a tag division.
As for Cena, pretty much spot on with what was said, although I do feel that you saying he is as good is the rock is maybe giving Cena a little too much credit. I know were are talking strictly from a wrestling standpoint here so I not going to go on about how Rocks charisma, mic skills and ability to draw the crowd in is better than Cenas. However, I do feel the rock was a better wrestler than Cena. Hustle recently completed his March Madness tournament on the main page and out of the 64 matches that competed only 2 matches involved Cena while 6 matches were competed in by Rocky with his bout against Stone Cold at Wrestlemania 17 actually winning the whole tournament. While I can appreciate that the matches were just based on one mans opinions the voting was done by the readers. I Just feel that while Cena is without a doubt a good wrestler as he has proven many times against the likes of HBK and HHH along with outstanding gimmick matches against Umaga ( I Quit) and Edge (TLC) I just feel to compare him to The Rock is either unfair on Rocky or very generous to Cena. Oh, and Smackdown is the shit right now! |
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Your song choice is terrible. C'mon Stinger, that's just shameful.
I've had this idea for a long, long time, but I never had the initiative to follow through on it. You had the right idea incorporating multiple writers, although I would've liked to see more schtick and parody reflecting more than just the show's premise. But that's just me. And Monkey's right, referring to even your worst enemy as "resembling last days WCW" is just a low blow. Nobody deserves that, not even TNA. |
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So fucking boeatyfglyil!!!!!!!
Zooey is so pretty!!!! |
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