What title do you think TNA should have?

[Hollywood Hogan]

Current championships:

1. TNA World Heavyweight Championship

2. TNA Global Championship

3. TNA World Tag Team Championship

4. TNA X Division Championship

5. TNA Women's Knockout Championship

6. TNA Knockout Tag Team Championship

Just curious to see people's idea about what championships they think TNA should have?

I know some people won't like this, but being a big NWA fan, I'd love TNA to have remained (or go back) to using the NWA as the governing body of it's titles, like wCw did in the early 90's.
However obviously I want TNA remaining as simply TNA, without the NWA-TNA name.
Also I've always thought that the NWA name has prestige about it.


The titles in TNA i'd like them to have:

1. NWA World Heavyweight Championship

2. NWA United States Heavyweight Championship

3. NWA World Tag Team Championships

4. NWA X Championship

I think the United States title would be good to have, as it's a good platform for a potential up-and-coming maineventer to have, like the IC title in the WWE.

Also I personally don't like the ''X Division championship'' name, as I've always thought it sounded odd, as it's like saying the ''World Heavyweight Division championship'' which would sound odd. So I just left it as ''X''.

What championships do u think TNA should have?

[Phineas McLintock]

1) TNA World Heavyweight Championship

2) TNA Tag Team Titles

3) TNA X-Division Championship

Focus on all 3. Don't let knockouts or has-beens on the show and promote WRESTLING!!!

[Nash]

^Spoken like someone who hasn't seen the Knockouts wrestle.

[Phineas McLintock]

I watch them every week. I still firmly believe that women have no place being in a wrestling ring.

[Box Car Rocco]

1. The over 50's title.

2. The World's title.

3. The Legends title.

4. The Tag Team titles.

[Phineas McLintock]

Originally Posted by Box Car Rocco

1. The over 50's title.

2. The World's title.

3. The Legends title.

4. The Tag Team titles.

[Brady]

TNA World Heavyweight Championship

TNA World Tag Team Championship

TNA X-Division Championship

TNA Knockout's Championship, except not the lame white belt design they have now.

[walker]

Everything as it is now but with a bigger push on the x divsion and make the global a good mid card belt
mybe also a hardcore belt cause lets face it thats something the wwe cant really do anymore captialize on it.

[Rogue]

TNA World Title

TNA Tag-Team Titles

TNA Global Championship

TNA Knockouts Tltle




Yes, I realize I left the X-division title out. For one thing, it's obvious TNA doesn't give a shit about this title anymore, it's barely featured on any episode of Impact, and it's practically the forgotten belt. Merge that title with the Global Championship, and use that as your 1 mid-card belt.

My main problem with the X-division belt, is that it's only for cruiserweight wrestlers, not for the regular mid-carders. TNA never really had a mid-card belt for the longest time, and I think it hurt them. Use the global championship like the WWE does with the IC or US Belt, as a midcard belt to elevate wrestlers up the card.

[kaos]

Originally Posted by Phineas McLintock

1) TNA World Heavyweight Championship

2) TNA Tag Team Titles

3) TNA X-Division Championship

Focus on all 3. Don't let knockouts or has-beens on the show and promote WRESTLING!!!

I disagree with the quote directly above this text and I shall do so in a non-flaming way from now on.

[MissouriDragon]

Hustle, this thread walks up to the Raw live thread, kicks it in the balls, and takes a dump on its face.

Jesus people.

[Gypsumstack]

Originally Posted by Rogue

TNA World Title

TNA Tag-Team Titles

TNA Global Championship

TNA Knockouts Tltle




Yes, I realize I left the X-division title out. For one thing, it's obvious TNA doesn't give a shit about this title anymore, it's barely featured on any episode of Impact, and it's practically the forgotten belt. Merge that title with the Global Championship, and use that as your 1 mid-card belt.

My main problem with the X-division belt, is that it's only for cruiserweight wrestlers, not for the regular mid-carders. TNA never really had a mid-card belt for the longest time, and I think it hurt them. Use the global championship like the WWE does with the IC or US Belt, as a midcard belt to elevate wrestlers up the card.

Hasn't Samoa Joe held the X Title on multiple occasions? He sure as shit isn't a cruiserweight.

[Phineas McLintock]

Originally Posted by kaos

Edited for flaming

If you want scantily clad women groping each on tv, locate the remote and wallet (and a set of testicles) and subscribe to the porn channels.

Wrestling is a man's sport, as is rugby and soccer!!!

[Rogue]

Originally Posted by Gypsumstack

Hasn't Samoa Joe held the X Title on multiple occasions? He sure as shit isn't a cruiserweight.

This is true and he was really only champion because he works an x-division style. Also, he's probably the only guy who isn't under 170 pounds that has held the title.

[Lazyking]

Huh? A man's Sport? So a man's sport is a sport where it's oily stuntman wearing speedos half the time, where some of the time there holding one another in a rest hold.

I'm going to use a line that my uncle tells me every time I start to talk about wrestling.

You know wrestling's fake, right?

Woman wrestlers freshen up the show and besides unless you watch shimmer, they only have one segment.

[Ian Clark]

Wrestling is a man's sport, as is rugby and soccer!!!

You ever watched women's rugby?

[King310]

If I had to eliminate a title I would drop the Knockout Tag Titles, unless they get there own program I feel it is a waste of time. I love watching the Knockouts but I think the singles title is enough if they only have 2 hours a week.

I would also prefer they replace the Global Title with a Television Title.
The biggest problem I have with the Global Title is that by definition "Global" and "World" are the same thing. TNA is trying to attract new fans and it will cause confusion with those new fans.

"Why do they have two "World" Champions?"

Edit: BTW I am glade they stopped using the IWGP Titles

[kaos]

Originally Posted by Phineas McLintock

If you want scantily clad women groping each on tv, locate the remote and wallet (and a set of testicles) and subscribe to the porn channels.

Wrestling is a man's sport, as is rugby and soccer!!!

My first post applies to this post too

[King310]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Hogan

I know some people won't like this, but being a big NWA fan, I'd love TNA to have remained (or go back) to using the NWA as the governing body of it's titles, like wCw did in the early 90's.
However obviously I want TNA remaining as simply TNA, without the NWA-TNA name.
Also I've always thought that the NWA name has prestige about it.

While I agree that the NWA titles have great prestige to them. Much like WCW in the early 90's, the time came when TNA needed to separate themselves from the NWA and go out and build there companies image on there own.
When you are called TNA Wrestling but your Champions are referred to as NWA Champions it gives the image that TNA is the lesser of the two promotions, which is going to cause TNA to loose credibility to its new national audience.

[Nash]

Originally Posted by Phineas McLintock

If you want scantily clad women groping each on tv, locate the remote and wallet (and a set of testicles) and subscribe to the porn channels.

Wrestling is a man's sport, as is rugby and soccer!!!

OK, got your hand off your cock so you're fully concentrating on this?

Good.

That is the biggest load of sexist bullshit I've ever heard in my life. How in the blue fuck do you equate the athleticism of women's wrestling to pornography? If that were the case, wouldn't every Shimmer DVD come with a box of Kleenex?

Yes, women in wrestling have historically been eye-candy, but look at people like Awesome Kong. ODB. Hamada. The only women in TNA who are there because every red-blooded male wouldn't turn them down are The Beautiful People. Just because these girls are wrestling doesn't mean they have to jiggle for your entertainment. Lazyking's got bigger tits than Sarita, for crying out loud!

I hate to paraphrase the iMPACT! girls, but we're not dealing with Divas here. The women of TNA can wrestle.

[romans_3:23]

1. Cosmic Universal Heavyweight Championship of the Solar System.

Or, the CUSS title for short.

That's about it. Probably as prestigious as it gets.

[Haven]

Originally Posted by Phineas McLintock

If you want scantily clad women groping each on tv, locate the remote and wallet (and a set of testicles) and subscribe to the porn channels.

Wrestling is a man's sport, as is rugby and soccer!!!

You also probably think football shouldn't have cheerleaders...

Forget that the knockouts usually have the highest rated segments on Impact & had the best WRESTLING match on the January 4rth Impact, aside from the Angle vs Styles match.

Watch UFC if you want all man-on-man action.

[Glacier]

Originally Posted by Rogue

This is true and he was really only champion because he works an x-division style. Also, he's probably the only guy who isn't under 170 pounds that has held the title.

Kurt Angle is about 230.
A.J. is about 210-220.

I'm sure there are others too.

It's not about weight limits, Rogue, it's about NO limits. lol.

I do agree with you though, it seems that the X-Division title has lost most of its prestige that it had in 05-07.

TNA should just get rid of the Knockouts tag belts. All the other belts seem alright with me.

[Gypsumstack]

Forget titles...wrestling needs more cups! Why haven't TNA brought back the World X Cup again? It seemed to get over pretty well last time.

[Irishsara]

Originally Posted by Phineas McLintock

If you want scantily clad women groping each on tv, locate the remote and wallet (and a set of testicles) and subscribe to the porn channels.

Wrestling is a man's sport, as is rugby and soccer!!!

In America, Soccer is a womans sport.

Who is the most famous american soccer Player?

Mia Hamm

Also, you are wrong for tons of reasons, the fact is that in TNA at least most (not all) of the women can actually work a match.

Actually i bet percentage wise the women have more workers then the men when it comes to being able to wrestle.

[The Lion Heart Phoenix]

I don't mind the titles they have. I fully believe that TNA has the talent to create X-Division Tag Team Championships. Whether they utilize their talent or not is not part of the question.

[Phineas McLintock]

Let me clarify my position to all the people in these forums that don't get it. I'm sure you like today's version of wrestling, that is why you watch it. I find it to be inferior to the late 80's, early 90's version of the product.

Back then wrestling was about actually being able to WRESTLE. Telling a story in the ring, using ring psychology was far more important than how good an oiled up guy looked in his underwear. The reason there was no women wrestling back then is because it was more focused on athletic prowess and strength. Now wrestling is solely classed as entertainment, and the fact that people cannot actually wrestle is overlooked as long as they are entertaining, Santino being an example.

It isn't that I said anywhere that Knockouts can't wrestle, I said that they shouldn't. That is my personal opinion, wrestling should be slower based and built around telling stories, something which Hogan said he was going to bring to TNA.

As far as all the immature homosexual innuendo being thrown around in here, I would advise you to compare your choice of the sport to mine. There are far more oiled up men these days constantly making gay references (Triple H) than there ever was back when wrestling was more physically demanding.

[Vikodin]

Originally Posted by Box Car Rocco

1. The over 50's title.

2. The World's title.

3. The Legends title.

4. The Tag Team titles.

Wouldn't the Legends championship be the over-50 championship

[avery]

Originally Posted by Phineas McLintock

Let me clarify my position to all the people in these forums that don't get it. I'm sure you like today's version of wrestling, that is why you watch it. I find it to be inferior to the late 80's, early 90's version of the product.

Back then wrestling was about actually being able to WRESTLE. Telling a story in the ring, using ring psychology was far more important than how good an oiled up guy looked in his underwear. The reason there was no women wrestling back then is because it was more focused on athletic prowess and strength. Now wrestling is solely classed as entertainment, and the fact that people cannot actually wrestle is overlooked as long as they are entertaining, Santino being an example.

It isn't that I said anywhere that Knockouts can't wrestle, I said that they shouldn't. That is my personal opinion, wrestling should be slower based and built around telling stories, something which Hogan said he was going to bring to TNA.

As far as all the immature homosexual innuendo being thrown around in here, I would advise you to compare your choice of the sport to mine. There are far more oiled up men these days constantly making gay references (Triple H) than there ever was back when wrestling was more physically demanding.

I think the reason you like the 1980s wrestling style is because you're still living in that decade. I'm surprised you are capable of writing those posts, what with one hand being used to smack your wife for overcooking your cereal and using the other hand to change the dial on your TV.

[Gypsumstack]

Originally Posted by Phineas McLintock

Let me clarify my position to all the people in these forums that don't get it. I'm sure you like today's version of wrestling, that is why you watch it. I find it to be inferior to the late 80's, early 90's version of the product.

Back then wrestling was about actually being able to WRESTLE. Telling a story in the ring, using ring psychology was far more important than how good an oiled up guy looked in his underwear. The reason there was no women wrestling back then is because it was more focused on athletic prowess and strength. Now wrestling is solely classed as entertainment, and the fact that people cannot actually wrestle is overlooked as long as they are entertaining, Santino being an example.

It isn't that I said anywhere that Knockouts can't wrestle, I said that they shouldn't. That is my personal opinion, wrestling should be slower based and built around telling stories, something which Hogan said he was going to bring to TNA.

As far as all the immature homosexual innuendo being thrown around in here, I would advise you to compare your choice of the sport to mine. There are far more oiled up men these days constantly making gay references (Triple H) than there ever was back when wrestling was more physically demanding.

No women's wrestling in the 80's and 90's? I think Moolah, Sherrie, Wendy Richter, and others would disagree with you. Besides 2 seperate periods of 3 years each, the WWE has had an active women's title since Vince bought the company from his father.

[Phineas McLintock]

Originally Posted by avery

I think the reason you like the 1980s wrestling style is because you're still living in that decade. I'm surprised you are capable of writing those posts, what with one hand being used to smack your wife for overcooking your cereal and using the other hand to change the dial on your TV.

If the useless bitch stopped burning the toast I wouldn't have to smack her around!

[Ian Clark]

There was no women's wrestling in the '80s and early '90s? So if I mentioned Fabulous Moolah, Wendi Richter, Rhonda Singh, Madusa Micelli, Leilani Kai, Sherri Martel, Bull Nakano, nothing?

You said wrestling should be built around strength and storytelling, and I somewhat agree, so let's examine those two dimensions with respect to women's wrestling:

1. Strength. I'd like to add my own caveat to that if I may: strength and skill. If you enjoyed seeing feuds like Hogan/Piper, Hogan/Dibiase, Flair/anyone or Savage/Steamboat then you shouldn't have a problem with me adding that caveat. Here's the issue with strength: Strength is relative, hence divisions. There's a reason why you won't see Velvet Sky fighting Abyss, and that's not because Velvet Sky is unworthy, but because she's in a different division. You could argue that there should only be one division, and that as a consequence no one of lesser genetic physical prowess should be let in, but then what? Well, surely you shouldn't have a midcard title. Why let people compete over second-best? I guess you could keep the tag team titles under the argument that tag-team wrestling is a different sport, but you'd have to do without the X-Division title. After all, if the guys in the X-Division are really that damn talented, why can't they hang with the guys in the heavyweight division? But that's not the case. The reason there's an X-Division title is because, as the story goes, the guys in the X-Division are just as talented, just as dedicated and just as athletic as the heavyweights, but unfortunately a lot of them just weren't born as big as the bigger guys. This doesn't seem like a fair reason not to let them do their thing, hence the creation of their own division, and with it their own title. You yourself said the knockouts can wrestle, so the same is the reasoning behind a knockouts division.

2. Storytelling. This is a particular favourite aspect of mine, as I've studied both postmodern philosophy and english literature. The primary aspect of storytelling in any medium is the telling of the story in emotions. Take, for instance, Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant. Technically, the match was shit, but everyone remembers Hulk's desperation as he himself began to wonder if he was totally screwed, everyone remembers Bobby Heenan's glee every time it looked like Andre had the match won, and most people probably remember the slightest whisp of remorse around Hogan as he remembered the Andre who had been his friend mere months ago. So the question becomes, why can't women pull off that kind of emotion? I would argue that they can and do on a regular basis. Everyone remembers Kong vs. Kim on Impact for the story they told. Kim was the plucky young champion forced to fight for her life against a foe who cared nothing for competition and used her inherent gifts to maul everyone in her path. Then there was Kong vs. Love. The arrogant heel champion forced to overcome not only a much larger angry foe, but come face to face with her own misdeeds and look herself in the mirror. The story then ends with her rejecting her newfound moral knowledge and opting for the easy way out again. These are two examples, but it goes on and on like that. If you can't see any of what I'm saying, and instead see nothing but "women groping each other", then you need to overcome your own preconceptions of women as purely sexualized beings.

[The-DIY-Kid]

Originally Posted by Gypsumstack

Forget titles...wrestling needs more cups! Why haven't TNA brought back the World X Cup again? It seemed to get over pretty well last time.

I loved X-Cup.
Fuck, you've got the World Elite there haven't you? If you really want to put 'em over, get all the American nobody midcarders, they can be Team U.S.A., they can fued with the World Elite for the X-Cup and World Elite can beat the piss out of Team U.S.A.
Simple booking but effective.

[DA I VAN]

World Heavyweight Title
X Division Title
Tag Team Titles
Knockout Championship

and another mid card belt the Global Championship is crap and needs to be canned asap. Like a TV Title would be cool and the perfect guy for the job is in my sig.

[nWo 4 Life]

i think the name Global championship is stupid when you already have a WORLD champion. Wtf is the difference?

This Global title should become a World TV title like WCW had to help elevate mid-carders or combine/unify it with the X Div title and call it..I dunno..the The Global X championship? Ugh!! The name Global should just be dropped.

[The Korean]

TV title is a dumb name. Might as well go back to Legends Title.

[Rogue]

^ What would you suggest as a good name?

Personally, I'm not a fan of Global Title either, or TV title for that matter, however they need something for the guys on the roster who aren't in the Main Event, or a Tag-Team.

The X division title is associated with flashy spot-fests, and won't work on a guy like Hernandez.

[Irishsara]

Originally Posted by Phineas McLintock

Let me clarify my position to all the people in these forums that don't get it. I'm sure you like today's version of wrestling, that is why you watch it. I find it to be inferior to the late 80's, early 90's version of the product.

Back then wrestling was about actually being able to WRESTLE. Telling a story in the ring, using ring psychology was far more important than how good an oiled up guy looked in his underwear. The reason there was no women wrestling back then is because it was more focused on athletic prowess and strength. Now wrestling is solely classed as entertainment, and the fact that people cannot actually wrestle is overlooked as long as they are entertaining, Santino being an example.

It isn't that I said anywhere that Knockouts can't wrestle, I said that they shouldn't. That is my personal opinion, wrestling should be slower based and built around telling stories, something which Hogan said he was going to bring to TNA.

As far as all the immature homosexual innuendo being thrown around in here, I would advise you to compare your choice of the sport to mine. There are far more oiled up men these days constantly making gay references (Triple H) than there ever was back when wrestling was more physically demanding.

Women have been part of wrestling your entire lifetime. There was a period when some promoters felt that women wrestling was wrong because women were not tough. There have been women wrestling champions for as long as there has been men wrestling champions. Mildred Burke and such. NWA had a women's champion in the 50s. Moolah was a great wrestler and was the manager to the REAL Nature Boy Buddy Rodgers. Women's wrestling has always had a place in wrestling. Your comment that there was no womens wrestling is nothing but ignorance or gender discrimination.

Hell a wrestler of the talent of Hamada would have a place in any era.

[wikkawise]

TNA World Heavyweight Championship

TNA World Tag Team Championship

TNA Hardore Championship

TNA Women's Knockout Championship


Global and World technically mean the same thing, so no Global Championship.

They should make the X-Division totally extreme!

Keep the rest.

[Gypsumstack]

They should change the Global title to the North American title.