John Cena Thread

[D2K]

Originally Posted by Smarmy

Well I think when he does eventually turn heel some people are expecting him to return to his 2003 rap character which he has moved on from a long time ago and would make no sense to go back there. I would love to see a total psycho heel Cena where he just annihilates people.

Or how about he go back to his "Prototype' character which got him on he map.

[Bobby_Womack]

heel cena would be good for ratings. Man he could really lite up the mic with a heel gimmick.

[Slap]

I can't win till Cena fails a drug test and looks like a huge fucking idiot for all his anti-steroid rants. He's a juicer himself ffs.

[Bobby_Womack]

While I have no doubt that Cena is a juicer him self, and it would break the hearts of the e-chain-gang alliance as a whole, such a revelation would be both Good, and bad for the WWE. If Kevin Nash thinks there is no way Bobby Lashley is clean, then I wonder what he thinks about John Cena ????

The good aspect's - if John Cena failed a drug test, and it was leaked to the Media, WWE would be getting massive media coverage. Whatever show Cena is on at the time, would probably get a significant ratings bump due to everyone tuning in to see John Cena the Juice Monkey.

Bad aspects - Congress may decide to hold more hearings, and steroid inquiries/insert an anal Steroid probe up the WWE's collective ass. Steroids being publicized n such a way could encourage non-pro/pre-pro college athletes to hit the Juice.

[CoLD]

That same article Nash talked about Bobby he mentioned how he KNOWS Cena is and always has been clean.

Just so ya know.

[Phantom Lord]

Come on guys if Hulk Hogan never failed a drug test in his day, do you think John Cena would?

There's a reason they have jobbers and such. Who do you think takes the piss tests.

[MissouriDragon]

I've long wondered if the only reason Michael Cole still draws a paycheck is for his clean urine.

[romans_3:23]

All the boys line up for some of that "vintage" Cole.

[Bobby_Womack]

Originally Posted by CoLD

That same article Nash talked about Bobby he mentioned how he KNOWS Cena is and always has been clean.

Just so ya know.

I remember that now..,, I was referencing Nash about cena for a reason but I could not remember. I am sure John Cena has a terrific work ethic, but he is just as jacked up as Bobby.

John Cena is the WWE's "darling" at the moment, they are too vested in him to let him look bad in anyway. As mentioned above, when Hogan was carrying WWF on his shoulders, there is no way he could piss dirty.

[Steve Monroe]

I dont really have a problem with John Cena as of late or really ever. Im not in love with the guy like my wife, but he is damn entertaining during promos. Has that clean shaven baby face look. Yes he is jacked, so what it wrestling its fake and phoney but it is entertainment.

[Bobby_Womack]

I have no problem with Cena being a Roid head. I just hate that he always is saying that he is clean. If he came clean on it, I would probably like him alot more.

[Steve Monroe]

Comiong clean ruins his cerdibility to the kids. Little kids Know about stuff no matter what we think. But he came clean hed be a criminal and the E knows it.

[Bobby_Womack]

He could work it into his gimmick somehow if he turned heel.

[Matt01]

Why would Cena turn heel when he's one of only a few marketable babyfaces on the entire roster?

[Chicago Made]

During a WWE creative meeting recently, one member of the team brought up the idea of turning John Cena heel. Vince McMahon lit the guy up about how foolishly short-sighted the idea was. There's a feeling that with all the merchandise revenue Cena brings in, turning him heel is a bad idea

I was really hoping for a john cena heel turn.

[Jack Tripper]

I'd personally would like to see a heel turn. Actually, more of a tweener type of thing. He'd also have to change his theme song.

[Bloodline]

While a heel turn would be nice, it's not so much a heel turn that he needs. What John needs is a personality. John Cena the rapper, that was good. John Cena the Marine, that was good. But this "Just John" approach...isn't working. He's as bland as that local jobber guy that got his ass beat on ECW Tuesday night. I'm not saying he needs anything drastic, but I can't recall the last time I saw Cena say something TRULY funny. At least not since his first feud with Edge back in 2006 when he still had a set of balls and hadn't sold his gimmick for a set of crayons and a coloring book. I can't recall the last time John Cena actually entertained me with anything. Much in the same way Hogan was boring. Let him go apeshit like Smarmy said, yet you can keep him face. Just have him say he's tired of Orton's shit and watch him take a lead pipe to Legacy. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Still, he needs SOMETHING. Be it that comedy he used to have or that intensity he had against Umaga at New Year's Revolution where JR shouted "GOD DAMN!!! CENA IS A MAN POSSESSED!!!!" on live TV. Till then, he'll be more stale than a bag of chips that's set on the very back of the shelf with a tiny hole in the bag, failing to be purchased before the expiration date.

[Chicago Made]

I agree but a heel cena would be nice and something diffrent

And his my time is now song is getting stale I'd like to see his thug life song come back

[Bobby_Womack]

so all the kids who buy cena gear love face cena, and the e-chang gang alliance. and the rest of the internet wrestling smarks want to see him turn heel

[Slap]

Originally Posted by Phantom Lord

Come on guys if Hulk Hogan never failed a drug test in his day, do you think John Cena would?

There's a reason they have jobbers and such. Who do you think takes the piss tests.

^ good point

[Gypsumstack]

Originally Posted by Bobby_Womack

so all the kids who buy cena gear love face cena, and the e-chang gang alliance. and the rest of the internet wrestling smarks want to see him turn heel

Yep, all 12 of them.

Oh, and for the ignorant Cena/Hogan roid comparison...Hogan never had to take a drug test because the WWE weren't drug testing wrestlers back then. Now a days, if I'm not mistaken, it's the same as how the NFL does drug tests. 2-3 doctors, 1 wrestler - nude from the tits to the knees - and a cup. Unlike the NFL, however, everyone gets tested at each show, instead of each team haveing a few names randomly drawn each week.

[Bobby_Womack]

all 12 of whom ??? the e-chain gang ? Anyways.

If Cena pissed dirty, Vince wouldn't immediately have a press release in Stamford stating John Cena just tested dirty for roids' HELL NO. If he blows up at someone for suggesting Cena turn heel during a creative meeting, he would likely strangle the Dr. with his bare hands that told him Cena pissed Dirty.

RKO could probably test dirty for Steroids now & get away with it. Hell, judging by how ripped he has gotten over the last few years, I am sure he is either pissing dirty & vince doesent give a flip, or he is on some new synthetic roid that they don't have a test for yet.

[Gypsumstack]

No, all 12 internet smarks. Guess I shoulda clarified that.

Hey, I'm sure there are ways around the test. If I was able to cheat a drug test at my job, I'm sure these guys are smart enough to do it, also. But, until there is proof of someone cheating and getting away with it - which I guess there would never be proof if it works - I'm going to assume that WWE tries to run the tests legit. I have no idea how some people haven't failed yet - looking at you Batista - but I'll give them the benifit of the doubt.

And as long as they don't get busted buying the stuff, there is no test for Human Growth Hormone. Although from what I have read, HGH doesn't have the negative side effects of steroids, so it might not be as bad for you.

As for Cena, again, I am willing to accept that his degree in whatever the hell it is allows him to keep his body in shape without help...but I wouldn't be shocked if he used. I know people in real life that make Cena look like a little bitch and I know they're clean.

[G-Star]

I never liked Cena, even before it was 'cool' to hate him. I remember when he got drafted to RAW in 2005(?) and was put in a fued with Jericho. I hated him so much then, that when he beat Jericho and Jericho left WWE, i stopped watching it. I couldnt stand him, i didnt watch WWE again for another 6/7 months (first time was New Years Resolution where, coincidentally, Edge came out and won the title of Cena. I had only tuned into the show because it was late at night, i was bored, and it was on for free. Had no idea what matches were on etc.)

Had it not been for Edge winning that night, i wouldnt have continued watching WWE, and god knows if i would be watching it today. It took until 2007 until i warmed to Cena. He impressed me with the Edge, Umaga and HBK fueds. Ever since, i like watching his matches but wouldnt say im a diehard fan.

Anyway, thats my 2 cents on Cena. The end!

[Bobby_Womack]

I didn't know it was cool to hate cena. I thought majority of the people that watched wrestling loved him.

[G-Star]

I have another story about Cena...my friend was on the same flight as the WWE from New York to Dublin last month. The seats were pre-arranged and guess who he sat INBETWEEN....John Cena and Edge! lol.

The thing is..he isnt a big wrestling fan. He recognised Edge but not John Cena (just goes to show). My other friend who was also on the flight is a HUGE wrestling fan, he was sitting beside one of the referees(im yet to find out which one though). In the end the referee offered to swap seats with my friend because he didnt have much room inbetween Cena and Edge.

Im pretty jealous, if i was him i would have stayed inbetween Cena and Edge..its a 6/7 hour flight imagine the things you could talk about!

[Gypsumstack]

Well, part of me would think it was cool to sit between Cena and Edge on a plane. The other part of me would be highly pissed, and they probably would be too. I'm 6'3" 250 lbs. That would be a 7 hour flight of hell. The first hour might not be bad, but after that it would just plain suck.

Always request the window seat.

[Durandal]

Originally Posted by Gypsumstack

Well, part of me would think it was cool to sit between Cena and Edge on a plane. The other part of me would be highly pissed, and they probably would be too. I'm 6'3" 250 lbs. That would be a 7 hour flight of hell. The first hour might not be bad, but after that it would just plain suck.

Always request the window seat.

Heh, I'd never do it, but it would be kind of funny to only talk to the more obscure one and totally ignore the superstar. Like if Chavo Guerrero and Randy Orton were next to you, and you talk only to Chavo.

[Gypsumstack]

^ Chavo probably has better road stories anyway. All that time traveling with Eddie, I could only imagine.

What's Orton gonna do? Tell me which Diva's bag he is shitting in this month?

[Xavier I K]

Having read a lot of comments on John Cena being turned heel, lots of comments about John Cena Vs The Rock and having just read JoeyShinobi's amazing column I've come to a rather bizarre conclusion/scenario.

IF - big if - John Cena was to get a chance to face The Rock say Wrestlemania 26 then in the interest of the WWE John Cena should stay face up to this match. The Rock should be seen as a heel. Sure the fans will love to cheer him, we all would. I may be going out on a limb saying this but I personally think The Rock's best work was when he came back as the Hollywood heel and had some hilarious promos. (Mothercanuckers anyone?)

It would be interesting as to how exactly the mic work would be here as to how both John Cena would work the crowd during promos to cheer him and how The Rock would work the crowd during promos to boo him. I'm sure a few cold things might have to be said by The Rock such as maybe the WWE being beneath him and he doesn’t need the fans etc etc. Those cheers will soon turn to boos. Even run-ins to John Cena matches where he nails him with chairs will stopped being cheered eventually.

This would need some lengthy time to work. Possibly starting at the Rumble? The Rock can show up and cost Cena a title/rumble win? This can worked into promos. The Rock says he's the Hollywood champion or some crap like that and Cena will never be at his level and that he heard all the trash Cena was talking. Really play into the egotistical heel he can play so well.

Cena will defend the WWE, The Rock is all Hollywood. Cena play's the underdog constantly on the end of a Rock chair beat down. Sound's great doesn't it?

Well...yes. That being said I feel like I've ripped off the Rock-Goldberg storyline. I'm sure this would be intensified on a much great level. The match at Wrestlemania would be an emotional classic. The match finish is however something that has eluded me to find a conclusion to.

In JoeyShinobi's column he has Jericho clean pin The Rock (sorry if you haven't read his column, you should!!) which leads me to say as much as it pains me but for the direction the WWE is going right now there is no way The Rock should beat John Cena. I've thought about it and a clean pin would be great for John Cena as a face, I imagine though he'd spend a lot of time being boo-ed during the match and The Rock would be cheered a la Rock-Goldberg. Double-turn perhaps? Maybe. Maybe not.

The match ending I see being the most plausible is Cena finally snaps and just brutalising The Rock before making him tap out to the STFU. Yes I just said that. Further more, he should refuse to relinquish the hold. That extra 30 seconds of the STFU would be just enough to garner imaginable heat and tweak Cena's character ever so slightly and give him that heel turn.

Despite what I just wrote I don't believe it's still justified for it to be a full blown hell turn. Just the very important start. And it would be quite the statement for the here and now and possible future of the WWE in John Cena having him make The Rock tap out at Wrestlemania. The key to everything would be the next night on Raw after that Wrestlemania.

You want a heel turn for Cena? This is the route right here. Leave The Undertaker's streak alone. It does not need breaking. Obviously this whole scenario may not be do-able because "Dwayne Johnson" could just say no. I for one would like to see it happen. Not because I'm a Cena fan because I'm a fan of The Rock but I think it would be great for wrestling. It would be a great moment. Or you could just say I fuck all about wrestling and what I just wrote was a pile of shit.

Apologies for the long post, I would've attempted a column but I completely suck at them so I'll stick to simpler things of posting in the forums.

[Phineas McLintock]

I don't think The Rock will ever wrestle again tbh. I think that after next year and if his films are doing well, Cena will wrestle only part time before retiting from the ring.

[Gypsumstack]

I think Rock will come back whenever Disney stops wanting to make movies with him. Once the movie offers go away, he'll probably make a return out of boredom. But I'd look for it to be an HBK type of schedule, which means he'll probably never hold a world title again.

[Phineas McLintock]

Yeah, but even when Disney get bored there's always a calling for cheesy action film men. Dolph Lundgren, Jean Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal are still going so Rocky's in good company.

[FreekyDeeky]

Originally Posted by The Legacy

I think that after next year and if his films are doing well, Cena will wrestle only part time before retiting from the ring.

I dont think Cena would do that not after what he has said about the rock turning his back on wrestling for hollywood

[Phineas McLintock]

There was a time when The Rock used to say the very same thing about Hulk Hogan making films.

[Gypsumstack]

^Which is why I don't see Cena following suit. He's made such a big deal about calling out the Rock for saying one thing and doing another that it would make him out to be a real prick if he pulled the same stunt.

The only way I see Cena giving up wrestling for movies is if he gets another major injury, and I still think he would make 3 or 4 appearances a year after leaving.

[Chicago Made]

Man this cena big show fued is getting kinda stale I meen I'd be into if show could have won a ppv against him but he hasn't and it looks like the miz is getting involved witch I love because the miz is awsome...

[Hustle]

Originally Posted by Chicago Made

Man this cena big show fued is getting kinda stale I meen I'd be into if show could have won a ppv against him but he hasn't and it looks like the miz is getting involved witch I love because the miz is awsome...

Umm.. that was all over the place.

[Phineas McLintock]

I don't know if this will be good or bad news Hustle, but i am calling a Cena heel turn in the next few weeks. Check out my post in the Triple H thread and you will see where i am going with this.

I personally believe Hunter and Cena are the 2 biggest names in wrestling, 1 should be heel and 1 face, now Hunter is face and loving the attention i don't think he will turn so maybe it will be left to Cena.

What are your thoughts on this?

[Hustle]

I'd love it if Cena turned heel. I just don't think we're going to see it for a while. Not until 2010, anyway.