LPW OOC Thread

[Rogue]

Be glad you wern't around in TO's days when he responded to every bit of trash talk that was ever said for like months.

I understand your point about it limiting opportunities to respond, however if it's not done, trash-talking get's very boring and very repetitive quickly. Your practically saying the same thing over and over again.

[Andy_Savana]

I was agreeing with you Monroe.

Not Rogue.

Quoting is eh to me.

Because when your TT is:

Cat cat cat cat cat cat cat cat cat etc.

and your opponent responds.

You: Cat.
Opp: Oh, like tuna do you?

You: Cat.
Opp: LOLS YOU LIKE TUNA!

You: Cat.
Opp: Man you love you some nasty.

Just as counter productive as if in real life you let them monologue for two minutes. Luckily, its an efed about wrestling....where we get backstage segments....and talk trash....because watching a conversation between two wrestlers would be....a soap opera...

[Steve Monroe]

it is your responsibility to come up with creative ways to add things to TT other than the normal thing. but I understand.. TT just has been hard on me lately I dunno if it is me or what.

[Rogue]

^ I like that your so active though, not many people trash-talk anymore, at least not like it used to be...

I think how a person views trash-talk depends on how they do it. If they view it as a way make sure a feud stays hot, then mini-promos and giant blocks of text are the way to go.

I see it as a way to start feuds, personally. Once I'm in a feud with somebody, I really don't need to trash-talk, I can do that in my promos and in segments.

With my trash talk, I do it as a way to start feuds. I try to say things that get under people's skin (Not OOC, but IC) to get them off their game and get their focus on me, instead of elsewhere. Hell, as much TT as we've done, we could start right now.

The way you TT

My character's cocky and arrogant, and well spoken, which means he will berate anyone and everyone, picking apart what they say to point out flaws they have.

If I had a dark character, I couldn't TT this way, as it wouldn't fit with him.

[Steve Monroe]

It should be a mix of both, starting a feud and keeping it hot. I want to keep peoples intrest in everything I do it helps make the character Monroe more compelling and get peoples intrests sparked in him.

Like if there is a three week break between match and everything. Why would people really care about the feud between you and your opponent if there is no interaction on the boards. If they dont care about the feud they are less likely to read the promo.

[Homicide]

Originally Posted by Steve Monroe

Ok, So I dont much care how people TT. But I am gonna ramble here for a second so feel free to reply and correct me where I am wrong.

this is not directed to any one person this is more of a general post as to the way I am feeling. Sorry if I come across the wrong way. I dotn not take anything TT wise personally I know it is just a game we all play. I have absolute respect for everyone here as a person. That being said.....

1) Grammer, English, Spelling. I make mistakes hell everyone makes mistakes. It is kinda shitty when I get blasted in TT IC wise for errors. I understand the need to wanna win a TT but there are better ways to do it. I don't sit back on my high horse to complain/make fun of others errors.

2) Dissecting a TT with qoute patterns is pretty lowclass IMO. It allows you to take anything you want completly out of context. Which means you can change the overall message to almost anything you want.

I TT alot but the recent month has almost made me want to stop doing it completly. I am not saying I am better than anyone on this thread and I am still learning my art. It just seems there are better ways to do things.

Hahahahahaha.

OOC heel turn.

[Eric Scorpio]

^ See I knew that was going to happen.

[Romeo]

Originally Posted by Andy_Savana

You: Cat.
Opp: Oh, like tuna do you?

You: Cat.
Opp: LOLS YOU LIKE TUNA!

You: Cat.
Opp: Man you love you some nasty.

I'm sorry, but this post was huge win. Now if only Andy's actual TT was this funny. (Oh snap!)

Your TT can't always be easy. I do appreciate it when I get to verbally own someone, but I appreciate it even more when I get a chance to face a challenge.

[Homicide]

Originally Posted by Eric Scorpio

^ See I knew that was going to happen.

Wait... Me? You know me too well.

[Hatchet]

post disection is ugly

Nobody does that in real life

Quoting an entire post shows immediantly who your aiming at and presents all the points to which you could argue, but when you chop somebody's TT into fragments in an attempt to make the other guy look stupid or get your own point across, it's kinda lame.


Grammar, spelling, english mistakes happen

Unless the post doesn't make any sense read out loud.

this is supposed to be as if things are spoken, not like we're arguing over AIM or something

when i'm talking to you and say "understandable" there's no fucking way that I could have said "undrstandble"

Stuff like that honestly annoys the shit out of me, when used in trash talk against you.

We're arguing in person, how could I have spelled something incorrectly ?

[Homicide]

As much as people like to downplay the importance of spelling, at the end of the day, one's success in LPW is dependent upon the degree to which they can express themselves. Just as wrestlers who cut promos poorly often mutter or stumble their words, e-fedders who can't trash talk make glaring spelling mistakes or take liberties with English that nobody can abide.

As for trash talk, I'll shoot as long as I have ammo. And if someone is going to saturate their paragraphs with like fifty different things that each warrant mentions, then I'll go ahead and take advantage of that. But aside from this, the best way to counter such a 'petty' means of doing it, is to attack the person in question's character and allow the trash talk to progress. If someone's trash talk is comprised of their attempts to justify themselves and their character, and nothing else, then damn right I'm going to nitpick. But yes, I can see how the quote style annoys some and I'll switch it up.

[Hatchet]

Originally Posted by Homicide

As much as people like to downplay the importance of spelling,

Unless it makes trash talk unreadible it's annoying

Originally Posted by Homicide

at the end of the day, one's success in LPW is dependent upon the degree to which they can express themselves.

That's why grammar and spelling are taken into account when promos are rated and voters go by this stuff as well, but pointing out spelling errors and grammar mistakes in trash talk is petty

Originally Posted by Homicide

Just as wrestlers who cut promos poorly often mutter or stumble their words, e-fedders who can't trash talk make glaring spelling mistakes or take liberties with English that nobody can abide.

Again, promos are judged on how much you can engage the reader. Thinks like spelling and grammar mistakes throw them off and lessen your chance of votes and a higher score

Originally Posted by Homicide

As for trash talk, I'll shoot as long as I have ammo. And if someone is going to saturate their paragraphs with like fifty different things that each warrant mentions,

Eh' just adress all of it in your own little nice paragraph. To each his own I guess

Originally Posted by Homicide

then I'll go ahead and take advantage of that. But aside from this, the best way to counter such a 'petty' means of doing it, is to attack the person in question's character and allow the trash talk to progress. If someone's trash talk is comprised of their attempts to justify themselves and their character, and nothing else, then damn right I'm going to nitpick.

I don't got anything here, but I figure the more quotes I have from your single post, the more I'll appear to be right.

Originally Posted by Homicide

But yes, I can see how the quote style annoys some and I'll switch it up.

Eh' well shit, I an't got nothing here either

[Homicide]

Haha. I can appreciate pettiness, I like to consider myself a master at it. Here, let me grab moral high ground, by refusing to use such an underhanded tactic. I'll only draw attention to a spelling mistake when it completely undermines the person's sentiment. For example, someone I was trashtalking had a build-up of insults to my character, without naming him, that culminated in him spelling my character's name completely wrong. To the point that if he were to say it outloud, it would sound completely different. I decided it would be within the realm of my character to hop on that and use it to respond to his point.

I mean, people make it seem like I was picking out specific words in order to mess with my opponent's coherence, and while I can admit that I did this a few times, mostly I was merely addressing their statements in an ordered manner. As in, I would quote each complete statement and address it. I prefer to respond in trash talk than to go out and actually start it.

[Hatchet]

if your stating someone calling you homocide or something, that could be considered trash talk in itself.


Yeah, seeing your name spelled wrong to the point of it sounding completely differen't leaves room to correct in trash talk

like It's Hatchet Ryda not Ryder, key is duh sound Ry-Duh not Ry-Der or Rider

EDIT: and there's nothing wrong with responding with trash talk rather than going out and starting it. Doint it piece by piece though is annoying. You do a single quote of the guy and come back with as lengthy of a response as you want. I just don't think there's a need for post disection. I'm not arguing with you, because obviously your not opposed to eliminating that from your style. It's not like your the only person that does that, and it is a prefrence. It's not the golden rule of trash talk or anything.

[Homicide]

Then we're in agreeance.

[Hatchet]

To an extent I suppose. If I slip up in the TT and write your name as homcid, and you say Homcid ? then that's petty

but if a guy is spelling your name wrong consistently , then yeah that makes sense to point out.

[Homicide]

Its good that I've got your blessing to continue.

[Eric Scorpio]

Don't make me call time out on both of you!!!

[Steve Monroe]

I am prolly the biggest offeneder of spelling and grammer mistakes in TT and Promo around. I have worked hard the last few months at it in my promos and think I am coming around.

My TT style is kinda done on the fly, alot of what I say isnt well thought out, it just comes and if I dont get it out right away, I will either change what I say, or forget what I was really trying to say.

No excuses cause I hate them. But my grammer is fucking horrible for a reason, I am about 12 years removed from any type of schooling. Most of my high school education was fogged over by green grass and hazy smoke. I do write military paperwork daily, but trust me when I say Bullet statments are completly different than any kind of creative writting.

You shouldnt make exceptions for people in this business, I have no problems though admitting I personally dont feel as educated, or as a talented writter as most here. I can admit this is a blast, I have maybe more fun doing this than playing any video game, and sadly well not sadly but the friends I have made through this are my friends since me and my wife are homebodies and pretty anti-social.

I hope you guys can appreciate that

[Scotty_Boy]

Your promos have definitely improved in terms of spelling errors Steve. We're not all perfect.

By the way, just wanted to let everyone know. When the boards merge, I will be signing back up with the username Black Reaper. Just wanted everyone to know in case they thought it was an imposter.

[Son of Shockey]

And I shall rejoin under the name Kafu.

[Rogue]

I'm coming back as HeadJaroSolMask

[Ash Strife]

I'm not coming back...

Not really LOL

[Scotty_Boy]

I was surprised when you said that.

Then I saw the second line ¬_¬

[Trinity]

I'll be back under what name... Probably MetalKaiser or RockstarKaiser

[Killswitch]

I`ll be back under...

Killswitch.

[Damien_Inferno]

I shall return onder the name Damien Blaze

[Rogue]

Originally Posted by hatchet

OOC: Your right, I refrenced your style first in the OOC thread , I did play off that by purposely spelling your name incorrectly, so that you could respond off that like you said you were thinking about doing to another e-fedder who kept spelling your name wrong, but rather than play off that; You attacked my actual promo style, and maybe I am taking it to seriously, maybe your not the only guy to "break the 4th wall" but you picked apart my entire promo style to the point of me not one wanting to put one out, because the entire format that I use was mocked. My character wasn't mocked, I was mocked, my promos were mocked. I have been getting a lot of shit recently and most of it has been IC and that's all good and games, but it's not a hidden fact that people don't think I should be where I'm at currently. The issue is tip toed around and just not talked about in the open, but it's out there and I don't think anyone can deny that. I do consider it a low blow to mock people for fonts, colors, and the god awful spacing issues(by the way it's a copy & paste issue from works to the forum. Sometimes I don't have time to format and when I copy and past ,everything stays color coded , just horrible space) especially since this is IC.

NOW, This isn't me being a little bitch about everything , cuz i've already talked to a few people about this recently, even before this incident. As silly as this might sound, I had alot more respect before Body Count , where everyone said I was ready to take that next step. Well I took it and nobody is happy about it. Everyone has a right to there opinon and that's fine, but the fun that I have writing these gets a little closer to being extinct every day. This isn't Saint's fault, that's my fault somewhere down the line and it started right after Body Count. This last bit of OOC/IC trash-talk/criticism was just the moment/thing that made me lose my cool.

This has nothing to do with recent Trash Talk , because I love trash talk. People can trash my character however they like. This is geared more towards how people feel about me being champ, OOC. I don't think it's a big secret that alot of people aren't happy with it.

Like Scorpio said, this isn't place for this garbage, so I won't be posting anymore OOC rants in here. I'm just gonna finish my program with Savana and work the story with Monroe and after that, I don't know.

Didn't want to continue this discussion in the TT thread.

What incident are you referring to?

And people are upset with you, that your the LPW Champion? Could someone please explain that to me? Part of becoming a champion is being over, and if your not over, then it's really hard to win a championship. I fail to see how you could be over if people didn't like or respect you.

Also, even if people don't think you should be champ, what does that matter? All that matters is that you are champ, and you do the best you can to hang on to that belt. Besides, their have been plenty of people that I've known in e-feds that I felt didn't deserve the belts they won, due to me feeling their particular styles didn't work in that fed, or they wern't over enough. Yet some of those people went on to have great title reigns because they elevated their game when it mattered and proved they belonged there.

[Hatchet]

the incident I was referring to was the little flare up with saint. I was stating that shit has been bothering me way before that happened. I just finally lost my cool because of it. Yeah, I have to be over to a certain extent to win the belt, but that doesn't mean there isn't a decent sized group of people on here that think I shouldn't have came anywhere near it. I'm not dropping names, because nobody has came out and said that Hatchet is a horrible champ OOC. It's just the overall feeling I get from little things that are said. I do read into stuff to much sometimes, but I don't think this is one of them. I'm not mad about anything, I just want to forget about the whole thing.

Obama is LOVED by alot people and was voted into office

I think there's just as many or more people out there that HATE him though.

[Son of Shockey]

I am going on record here...

I luv Hatchet Ryda.

And how can people get so into this that they don't feel someone should be champion? Honestly. That's really silly and classless, to me. If someone's busted their ass with the promo writing and such, and they end up winning a title, they've earned it. They deserve to be champ. How can someone think that someone else doesn't deserve to be champion, when they've worked hard to get there? I don't get it.

Then again, maybe I shouldn't stick my nose into places it doesn't belong. Just tossing my two cents out.

[Tromboner Man]

Ok, I want it to be known I'm various shades of drunk right now and I've just run home from a party (literally), but this is not taking sides either way

Hatchet, yes, Honicide may have over stepped the line by critiquing your promo style in that way. BUT, in real professional wrestling, don't wrestlers cut promos, and everyone has their own certain style? This is reflected in E-Fedding, with handlers chosing to display their promo in a certain style. Homocide (lol, he gets it) was doing the same thing. Taking a way a wrestler promos and spoofing it up.

Hell, if I didn't spoof up a promo style, or a way a character acted, I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER would have gotten as far as I did. It's all part of the game.



Homicide. It's one thing to spoof a certain person's promo style, but it's another thing to tear it to shreds all together. It's a promo style that works for Hatchet, and won him numerous title matches and helped get him over.. Just because you're jealous because you know you couldn't pull it off doesn't mean you should discount the power behind it. )lolololol, he gets it(

But in all seriousness, you know Hatchet's got a very "old school" promo style that works for him. Don't undermine it by spoofing it in the TT threads.

Again, I'm not siding any side, but I'm trying to provide a balanced view. I personally loled for reals when i read Homicide's spoof, but I can see where Hatchet's coming from as well. Maybe Hatchet's pver reacting. Maybe Homicide's gpne too far (with the P intentional in both cases). I don't know. Either way, lets not make this public, shall we?

Take it to PM boxes or to Aim. At least that way, you can honestly sort your differences, and keep the entire community happy

PS - Hatchet vs. Peter Saint, World Heavyweight Title. That would sell out any arena in the world twice over. I love you two that much. Stop fighting. It makes me has a sad.

[Vikodin]

Originally Posted by Son of Shockey

And I shall rejoin under the name Kafu.

You bastard

[Son of Shockey]

Well, I certainly didn't want to come back under the new name of either Dr.Wagner or Steve Monroe, so Kafu seemed perfect.

[Krimson Mask]

Hey all, after hearing some concerns regarding the holidays, the All-Stars PROMO AND VOTING has received a massive extension. For promos only, you now have until Sunday night the 27th (that's an extra four days), then voting will begin and last until Tuesday next week.

PROMO ONLY until Sunday, December 27 at 11:59 PM PST!
PROMO and VOTING until Tuesday, December 29 at 11:59 PM PST!

Since All-Stars P&V started on the 15th, this is two weeks of time for promos. The extended timeframe should be adequate to compensate for everyone.

Now, in the case that someone still can't find time to promo, you may substitute yourself out of the match as long as you can find someone to take your place. I don't ever expect to do such an arrangement again, but with the holidays and an All-Star show, we'll use this as a one-time exception.

[Ash Strife]

Oh everyone real quick the people I used in the Opera portion of my promo. that was a dream as I know some characters wouldn't act like that

and happy holidays what ever you celebrate

[Nash]

Will the URL for the new boards be the same?

[Eric Scorpio]

Well, first you don't have to worry about it till nearly the end of January. Secondly, I'm pretty sure if there is a URL change, it'll be informed prior to reset of sorts.

However I'm pretty sure if the new board is on a different URL, the old one would automatically redirect to this one. A lot of people use the LOP news site and without some redirect, you could potentially lose a lot of fans. I'm sure they have that covered.

Secondly, Ash... that was a dream??? Damnit you!!!! I thought people really acted that way IRL... No wonder people have been looking at me funny lately...

[Lazyking]

Originally Posted by Krimson Mask

Hey all, after hearing some concerns regarding the holidays, the All-Stars PROMO AND VOTING has received a massive extension. For promos only, you now have until Sunday night the 27th (that's an extra four days), then voting will begin and last until Tuesday next week.

PROMO ONLY until Sunday, December 27 at 11:59 PM PST!
PROMO and VOTING until Tuesday, December 29 at 11:59 PM PST!

Since All-Stars P&V started on the 15th, this is two weeks of time for promos. The extended timeframe should be adequate to compensate for everyone.

Now, in the case that someone still can't find time to promo, you may substitute yourself out of the match as long as you can find someone to take your place. I don't ever expect to do such an arrangement again, but with the holidays and an All-Star show, we'll use this as a one-time exception.

Anyone who can't do a promo, i can sub for. Provided they ask me relatively soon.

[EB4]

So, Mask told me that X was having promo issues and asked me to take his place.

The promo I just posted is me doing that, so Jude/Ro won't have someone no show on him. I know how that feels. Anyway, had I known that the deadline was extended I would've waited a bit and forumlated a real idea. But I've got something up and I hope it's pretty strong. I'm actual happy with it myself.

So there's that whole thing.

In short, the match on LPW All-Stars, to my knowledge is Jude Maxwell and Eddie B. versus Mass Chaos and White Falcon as of now, provided things don't change.

[cﾘnical]

Mask, you rule.

My promo will be up Sunday, as I'll be out of town till then. I tried starting my promo last night, but eh... didn't work out so well.