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Yep.
This is just ridiculous, NSW. That's likely the series gone.
Why do we play so retarded, year after year? Get Creagh and Perry the fuck out, they are absolute nuffies. Creagh is simply infuriating. Get Gallen back in where he belongs. He just ran over 200m and made 38 tackles for Cronulla on the weekend, by the way, is an incumbent Test player, but apparently we don't have a place for him in a NSW jersey. It literally defies belief. Gallen and Lewis should start and play the majority of the game. Lewis should play the full 80 minutes no matter what.
After four years straight, stop fucking pussy-footing around Kidley's pride. He played a solid game, but in the game's most dynamic position, he isn't and can't do what Hayne can do there, or even Dugan. Bench him, at the very least.
Idris is a liability in a struggling side. QLD spurt sauce when they saw him come on and had him chasing his tail from the get go.
Slater and Thurston are mangy, little cunts. They are just too good. Hate them for it.
1. Jarryd Hayne
2. Brett Morris
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Timana Tahu
5. Chris Lawrence
6. Terry Campese
7. Brett Kimmorley
8. Michael Weyman
9. Michael Ennis
10. Jason King
11. Paul Gallen
12. Trent Waterhouse
13. Luke Lewis
14. Kurt Gidley
15. Anthony Watmough
16. Tom Learoyd-Lahrs
17. Kade Snowden
On a dry track, we win with this side.
I 110% agree with what you said on Gidley, but I disagree with what you said on Creagh, he ain't no nuffie and apart from one mistake, had a fairly solid game, but yep, Gallen should be in that side, Here is my side for Game 2:
1. Jarryd Hayne
2. Brett Morris
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Timana Tahu
5. Chris Lawrence
6. Trent Barrett
7. Brett Kimmorley
8. Michael Weyman
9. Michael Ennis
10. Jason King
11. Paul Gallen
12. Trent Waterhouse
13. Luke Lewis
14. Robbie Farah
15. Anthony Watmough
16. Tom Learoyd-Lahrs
17. Ben Cross
We'll have to agree to disagree on Creagh. I can't stand the sight of the ranga at the moment.
I think we can beat them on a dry track up there. We picked a lot of those forwards to play a skillful and mobile game. Those conditions did not suit us, despite the broad belief they would (based on our pack being bigger).
And i'm thinking maybe I should take some of my own advice and exclude Kidley altogether, instead filling the bench spot with...Todd Carney. There is an argument for Kidley's experience, but what has it proved so far? Carney's a got strong running and is more naturally talented than any other NSW half. Coming off the bench, there's not much to lose and so much to gain.
I remember Farah being pretty potent off the bench a few years back and can see him playing the same role. Carney playing that role is also a fair idea, It's times like these I wish Wing hadn't gone to Japan.
inferno
05-26-2010, 10:03 PM
haha, happy to see you on board the anti creagh train EJ!
Last night was no surprise at all to me.
I have to say though, I can't see why you're sticking with Kimmorley. I know it was a tough night for halves, but Kimmorley didn't have a hand in a single Blues point last night. Not 1!
Unless the halves change, minor tinkering with the forward pack won't make much of a difference IMO. As it is though, apparently Bellamy is trotting out the "loyalty" line (funny how it was also used for this game, but Gallen wasn't retained) so don't expect too many changes.
Idris was picked as a fan favourite and was shown up for the weak defender he is.
Gallen, Bird and Mason should all come back IMO.
I'd go with
1. Jarryd Hayne
2. Brett Morris
3. Jamie Lyon
4. Timana Tahu
5. Chris Lawrence
6. Trent Barrett
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Ben Cross
9. Michael Ennis
10. Josh Perry (needs to be pulled aside and told it's his last ever opportunity)
11. Paul Gallen
12. Luke Lewis
13. Greg Bird
14. Robbie Farah
15. Willy Mason
16. Tom Learoyd-Lahrs
17. Mick Weyman (perhaps the pick of our forwards but we'd get more from him off the bench)
While we persist in picking more backrowers than props on the bench we will continue to lose. FFS NSW has a CLEAR advantage with a backrow that can log big minutes which has the benefit of being able to interchange the props more frequently, but it is not taken advantage of. Bird and Lewis are both ball players which helps immensely given Baz can struggle at times as a playmaker.
Will never happen. Only real change will probably be Lyon to the centres if coops is fucked, or even worse Idris to the centres with another backrower coming onto the bench.
reedard
05-26-2010, 10:22 PM
A buddy of mine is heading to Australia in about a month for school. He'll be in Sydney. I'm thinking about heading there for a little R&R and really, when the hell else will I have the opportunity to head there.
I'm wondering what I should definitely do if I make it there. I don't want to do touristy shit. What can I do?
Non-touristy ay. Well maybe break into someone's house, cook yourself some dinner, then watch a bit of TV and go to bed. It's what us locals do.
I honestly don't really know what you mean. If you don't wanna see anything in particular, then just go ahead and do whatever you like doing in your free time. Pick a random pub for a drink, pick a random place to eat, you'll be right.
Back to the footy. Kimmorley's head will never drop, that's why I keep him. I can't trust a rookie halfback to do that if we get behind. I will watch Pearce's form. If he plays well, put him in. Why not? Maybe he'll play with more depth than we did last night (I know, the rain, but when QLD got to 28, we should've just said "fuck it, let's play with depth and width").
I really do think Campo should get another go though.
About our backrow compared to QLD's, I rate Thaiday, Myles and Harrison very, very highly come Origin. Maybe not as much at club level, especially Myles who ALWAYS goes up another level for QLD (but not Australia). But in Origin, those three are certainly better than our three starters last night. I just rate Lewis and Gallen as the best two backrowers in the game (after Tongue, B.Harrison and Fensom, of course....Fensom would play for QLD within two years if that's where he was from by the way, he's Dallas Johnson with something that resembles an attacking game...he'll probably never play for NSW).
Bellamy's talking about loyalty? I don't see where that comes into the equation at this point? Staring down the barrell of a previously almost inconceivable 5 straight losses and we want to take care of the players who've got us to this point?
MournDespana
05-27-2010, 04:53 AM
LINK (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/26/earlyshow/main6520609.shtml)
(CBS) Melbourne, Australia:
A family is breathing heavy signs of relief in Melbourne, Australia, after a heart-stopping accident involving a stroller at a train station Wednesday.
It was caught on surveillance video.
The video shows the stroller rolling off the platform -- in front of an oncoming train.
The stroller was pushed about 30 feet before the train stopped.
The motorman is being hailed as a hero.
The baby, who was rushed to a hospital and reunited with his shocked mother, suffered only minor cuts and bruises.
His grandmother, who was looking after him, says she only turned away for a moment.
His three-year-old brother was also there.
Video at the link.
Bestest
05-27-2010, 05:03 AM
same thing happend a couple months ago as well. both times the baby has survived which is unbelievable and both times the person responsible has been a dero. if one of these babys had died there would be small rails on every platform in the country but because they lived nothing will happen.
they're trying to make the issue "run away prams", which is stupid. the fault, clearly, is on the person responsible and to have the pram breaks on and don't leave it facing danger.
inferno
05-28-2010, 07:40 AM
Have to agree bestest, how the fuck did this happen AGAIN?
Also I forgot to mention last week EJ, fuck your raiders for fucking up my tipping last week AGAIN!
Meanwhile at the sharks hot on the heels of Sticky wanting out, our CEO Richard Fisk is also quitting. The phrase "rats leaving a sinking ship" is firmly lodged in my mind at the moment :S
Box Car Rocco
05-28-2010, 08:10 AM
Ben Creagh has gotten me some good dream team points recently, he's all good in my books.
Don't really like Origin, see no point too it and prefer the club games to it.
The baby thing was just freaky though... Like Bestest said, it isn't the first time it's happened which is even worse. I'm probably way off but I swear I've seen about 10 vids of things like that in recent times.
LOL@YOU tipping us to lose to the Dragons, Inferno. A decade since they've beaten us in Canberra. You deserve that one, sorry. We'll probably beat them in Round 24 too, especially if they're on a 7 game winning streak.
After listening to what Sticky said about Frisk on The Footy Show, it sounds like a massive loss to you. On face value, it looks like the two were close. That sucks, man. I'd willingly lose all the Carneys and Dugans in the world as long as I still had the Raiders.
We'll probably beat them in Round 24 too, especially if they're on a 7 game winning streak.
Sad but True. I really really hope you guys don't finish 7th or 8th because that's the last thing we need in finals
Westward-ho
05-28-2010, 11:17 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NSW LOSE. That makes me a happy panda right there. GO QUEENSLAND!!!!!!!!
Sucked in mofo's. 5 in a row OH YER I can't wait.
In AFL news.
And Collingwood lost to LOL sucked in to them and their supporters.
I went to Melbourne to see my Bombers beat Richmond. I chose thatgame to go to because I knew we would win. And I also got to see Carlton lose to. A great round of footy. Fuck Carlton and Collingwood.
Styxx
05-28-2010, 11:42 AM
I went to Melbourne to see my Bombers beat Richmond. I chose that game to go to because I knew we would win.
So you only go to games where a loss is impossible?
Love Carlton and Fuck Collingwood.
Edited for accuracy
Box Car Rocco
05-28-2010, 07:59 PM
Well Essendon did win last night... And I didn't tip them.
Might not tip them again this year if it means they win more.
inferno
05-28-2010, 09:03 PM
LOL@YOU tipping us to lose to the Dragons, Inferno. A decade since they've beaten us in Canberra. You deserve that one, sorry. We'll probably beat them in Round 24 too, especially if they're on a 7 game winning streak.
After listening to what Sticky said about Frisk on The Footy Show, it sounds like a massive loss to you. On face value, it looks like the two were close. That sucks, man. I'd willingly lose all the Carneys and Dugans in the world as long as I still had the Raiders.
Fair point, I even knew you guys had a good record against the Stains as well.
Regarding Fisk and Sticky. I've heard some less than stellar things about them both. The loss of Sticky I can deal with, he was taking our club backwards on the field IMO. Fisk was great mates with Sticky and I've heard leaked a number of things to the press including things like Ricky and the Board not seeing eye to eye, the board being split on the appointment of flanagan and a number of other untruths. If that's the case, good riddance to him. His priority should have been our club and NOT to Ricky Stuart.
I really hope we make it out the other end of this one. If we do, I think we have the potential to get stronger financially and not continue to plod along every year head barely above water.
Westward-ho
05-28-2010, 11:09 PM
So you only go to games where a loss is impossible?
Fuck Carlton and Fuck Collingwood
Edited for accuracy
Not always, plus calm down.
I also chose that one because it was the dreamtime match and it was another big match I hadn't been to yet. Usally I go to the Anzac Day match.
I'll be going to the Anzac day match next year, even when we lose it's a awesome accasion.
Plus the Carlton/Hawthron game I went to was awesome. Because Carlton Lost :-) only had 1 player on the bench to rotate but they still lost. All is good.
Edit: GO ESSENDON! Oh yer 3 in a row.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NSW LOSE. That makes me a happy panda right there. GO QUEENSLAND!!!!!!!!
Sucked in mofo's. 5 in a row OH YER I can't wait.LOL@TASMANIA
Box Car Rocco
05-29-2010, 03:58 AM
Wow at Richmond vs Port Adelaide. I've never seen a game of AFL like that before so it was awesome to watch. Good on Richmond for getting a win.
Styxx
05-29-2010, 04:12 AM
I'm no longer going to respond to westward-ho.
Richmond's win and the score board to it is astonishing.
Also should be going to Carlton v Essendon round 19.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NSW LOSE. That makes me a happy panda right there. GO QUEENSLAND!!!!!!!!
Sucked in mofo's. 5 in a row OH YER I can't wait.
In AFL news.
And Collingwood lost to LOL sucked in to them and their supporters.
I went to Melbourne to see my Bombers beat Richmond. I chose thatgame to go to because I knew we would win. And I also got to see Carlton lose to. A great round of footy. Fuck Carlton and Collingwood.
I miss when this thread was in the FFA...
There's no need to start on Collingwood supporters, just because we're doing better than Essendon like normal
Add me to the list of people who are now ignoring you
He hasn't exactly flamed anyone. That's just how inbred Tasmanians talk.
Watching Brisbane vs Collingwood... Its amazing how Brisbane have crashed and burned although really it was to be expected... Once teams learnt how to deal with the 2 power forwards and shut them out then Brisbane were always going to struggle.
Brown is clearly injured and Fev has struggled to be consistent.
As for us, our forwards need to lead and we need to stop kicking to contests. It works ok for us against teams that aren't St Kilda or Geelong, but if we are going to beat those 2 then they need to lead.
St Kilda continue to amaze me with how shit we are in the skills department and Kosi, well he's just a waste of space at the moment.
You guys are really missing Reiwoldt at the moment... I thought you would but I didn't think it would be this bad. Adelaide have really improved over the last couple of weeks. To be honest, I thought Koshitski was always a waste of space, surprised they don't just go with Goddard up there, he has proven himself before
I put $1000 on them to win the flag at $8 before the eagles game. I was happy with how we ran out that game, better execution. Onto Richmond next week.
Bestest
05-29-2010, 07:51 AM
fark collingwoods big forwards are letting us down. anthony is a waste of space and dawes needs a rest i think. defiently need davis and medhurst up there.
Box Car Rocco
05-29-2010, 08:43 AM
Collingwood has some epic depth right now. Lockyer and Frazer and a few others are playing in the reserves which is astonishing. Presti only came back to the team this week as well. Despite the loss, still a real threat.
I don't see anyone stopping Geelong right now, they have so many options up forward. Podsiadley is an amazing story.
In NRL... Manly's second halves shit me so much. So lucky to win tonight, Cowboys had like 5 chances to score in the past 10 minutes.
I don't see anyone stopping Geelong right now, they have so many options up forward. Podsiadley is an amazing story.
We are not even half way through the season, I don't think Geelong will win the flag this year. I really truly think that St Kilda will win the flag this year, why? Because since we've lost Riewoldt to injury we've gone 5-3 purely through experimentation and beaten collingwood, freo and dogs. We don't have the reliance of Riewoldt and Kosi looks lost without him, so we have had to find other options and tonight we kicked 19 goals. We are more reliant on our midfield and while that places pressure and exposes possible skill errors. We still find the ways to win. Come Round 19 - 20, when Riewoldt should make his return, if we have only dropped six games we will be a force to be reckoned with.
Westward-ho
05-29-2010, 10:49 AM
Wow, didn't see Richmonds win a mile away, The supporters must be over the moon. When did they last win damn.
As to who's going to win the premiership this year. Atthe moment I'd think Geelong. But now the hawks have all their players back I want to see how they go. Still think Collingwood can make a crack at the flag though, just having a bumpy ride at the moment. Brisbane are tough to beat at the GABBA.
Good to see them lose still.
I agree but the problem goes further. Look at our forward fifty entry. Its all high balls into contests we're not hitting the leading player. Geelong's best is better than everyone else at there best at the moment.
Collingwood has good depth, its why we're doing so well but in terms of just straight out A-grade players Geelong and St Kilda have us beat and we're probably equal with Brisbane and just behind the Bulldogs.
This month is Collingwood's toughest for the season (starting with Freo at Subiaco, then it was Geelong at the G, Brisbane at the Gabba and next week Bulldogs and the round after that is against Melbourne who are definitely showing something this year. Melbourne and the J-Pod are the 2 biggest surprises for me so far in the AFL. J-Pod's come from nowhere to be IMO top 3 forward in the competition, just his amazing pack marking ability. Melbourne are performing about 2 years ahead of schedule.
Cowboys are a one-man team. Next time Thurston gets injured they'll be super shit again, instead of just shit.
Westward-ho
05-30-2010, 04:15 AM
I agree with you on the Cowboys Unfortunately. I used to live in Townsville so I follow the Cowboys as well as follow AFL.
Man Richmond has some strong loyal supporters. I'll give them that; they turned out in number foe the Essendon/Richmond game I went to. Man that win must be a god send for them. They've been like shithouse for over 5 years now.
I'm pleased with the way my Bombers have been playing as of late. I hope Gumbleton can keep this up and become our next major target up forward. Our game play is looking a bit cleaner then it was. We're going to need that if we have any chance of making finals, which I think we can if we keep this up. And we need to learn to play away from home, because we're like the fucking worse team when we play away.
Carlton beat the Eagles...gay
Hawks Just beat the Swans, I thought the Hawks would tear them a new arsehole, guess not. Lance Franklin is reported and Campbell Brown looks out with a Knee injury that will hurt their chances of making finals. Especially if Franklin gets reported he was great against Carlton last week.
...And Israel Folau is officially the face of the Greater Western Sydney AFL team.
$1.4 million a season for a guy who's never played the game before. Is any other AFL player on as much money as that? Does that make him the highest paid player across the 3 footy codes in Australia?
I actually hope he goes well, it'd be exciting to watch, but I have grave doubts.
There it is... 1.4 million dollars a year down the drain. Well done GWS and AFL. Fucking idiots.
That's a real slap in the face to every player in the AFL that they are going to give him money like that. None of them would be on that much. He is pretty much now the highest paid footballer in Australia across any code, depending on how much Hunt is getting.
EDIT: Izzy isn't going to play top flight AFL football until 2012 so he has until then to learn the game
Western Sydney is basically my home. The AFL's PR team here will have to earn every cent they're paid to convince everyone that a former Melbourne, and current Brisbane and Queensland player, is Western Sydney through and through. It's pretty laughable just reading it like that. Us league fans know that he grew up in fuggen Minto, playing with Jarryd Hayne and Krisnan Inu, but since he's never played for Parramatta, Penrith or Wests, and in fact never played for a NSW team and has pledged his allegiance to another state, whatever he was doing when he was 14 is irrelevant. Heck, nobody views Inu as a Western Sydney product, he's a Kiwi in the eyes of all. Jarryd Hayne needed to be GWS's man. Hayne is huge here, and easily has the better talent to make a go of it in Aussie Rules.
Styxx
06-01-2010, 02:41 AM
He has two years to learn. Good luck.
Also if QLD drop him NSW would have to be estatic.
Bestest
06-01-2010, 02:44 AM
man i hope he and hunt do ok, it will be embarrassing otherwise. They're both there for marketing and promotion but i hope they can become genuine stars of the game. i think hunt has a better chance than folau atm tho.
He has two years to learn. Good luck.
Also if QLD drop him NSW would have to be estatic.It would be worth a giggle if he was ironically replaced by former defectee, Lote Tuqiri.
And doesn't Khunt play his first Aussie Rules game on the 10th? I guess we'll hear reports about that otherwise irrelevant game.
EDIT: And isn't it amazing to see the whole world in condemnation of Israel's decision. lolz, had to. It's been pretty funny watching the news tonight as they're the top two headlining stories.
Bestest
06-01-2010, 07:07 AM
yeah he plays his first match soon, the goldcoast team in general have been shithouse this year, i think they got there first win last week or something like that but cant expect too much. will be interesting to see how he goes. i'd expect him to only play 50% of the game, so a handfull of possesions would be a good return.
is falou a bit of a muppet or what, seems kinda slow.
He's from Minto, they're all slow from out there although, I'm from Liverpool so it really isn't that much of a step up. On another note, Well done on the Matilda's winning the Asian Cup. Hopefully our boys can replicate same sorta success at the World Cup.
inferno
06-01-2010, 10:07 AM
hahah, what a waste. I wonder how disheartened this makes young up and coming AFL players. Fuck it would be hard to hack playing along side a guy who is getting paid 4,5,6 times what you are despite only having played the game for a year or so.
No way in hell he'll see out his 4 year contract. I see him coming crawling back to a Sydney club inside 3 years. Shame it probably won't be us.
Bestest
06-02-2010, 03:14 AM
i think it will all come down to how well he can kick. the obvious position for him is centre half forward and he's proven he can take a mark and has the speed to make decent leads, so if he can figure out how to kick i think he will do ok.
Styxx
06-02-2010, 03:26 AM
I think Izzy's biggest issue would be his endurance, he's good for burts where he has to run quickly over a short- medium length, but does he have the tank for 120 minutes?
Bestest
06-02-2010, 04:04 AM
well he has a couple years and pre-seasons to get that right. if still no good he'll have to play full forward or at least rest through there.
I know they run quite a few k's in AFL, but Folau's stamina will be the least of his worries.
Nobody can remember seeing him kick in the NRL before, so that's clearly the biggest question mark. That said, guys like Inglis rarely kick in the NRL nowadays, but he's kicked absolutely massive bombs in the past and a few field goals, so he's able. I'd assume most league players, especially those in the backs, can kick to a decent level.
Bestest
06-02-2010, 04:50 AM
not doubting he wouldn't be able to kick it a long way, but kicking accurately to moving targets and on the run is the real worry. also adapting different types of kicks is another thing he will have to learn.
im actually really looking forward to seeing how these league boys do and hope they do well.
Check out these comments from the Fremantle coach. I realise they just media musings and he's not actively pursuing anything, but still, WHAT THA?!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/rugby-league/3768764/Fuifui-Moimoi-catches-AFL-coachs-eye
Fui in AFL? HAHAHAHAHAHA, now that would draw league fans to the game, he may actually be onto something. He'd be like Forrest Gump in gridiron, he'd just keep running, never bouncing, and score a try between the posts, steamrolling that lawn bowls guys who points his fingers.
Now that's someone who would struggle with the stamina required.
"Fui plays for 10 minutes, so Fui trains for 10 minutes"
Fui Fui has apparently drawn the interest of WWE as well, was on the main page a while ago
lolz, most people thought he couldn't speak English for a few years cus he never talks. He's got a normal Aussie accent as it turns out, but still doesn't talk. It's like Darius Boyd's interview, but all the time. I spose wrestlers are pretty fuggen shit on the mic in general, so it wouldn't matter.
EDIT: Here's Boyd's interview of the century, for those who missed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tGmSS6dO0
Pretty good ay.
inferno
06-02-2010, 10:08 AM
Moi Moi to AFL now that I'd love to see. If they think Hall is tough wait till they meet Moi Moi.
Mind you I think I've got better cardio than that guy, so maybe I could con them into offering my a contract.
Although I hate all things Dragons I feel bad the club let the media bully them into apologising. Fuck that, I'd have given them monosyllabic answers as well, what does he owe them!
Mind you it's a stark contrast to my favourite ever sports interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YKxf3OkpJc
Styxx
06-06-2010, 12:25 PM
Halfway through the AFL season.
Biggest dissapointment is Radelaide, biggest shock is Freo.
And Port Power are worse than Richmond.
Call me crazy but I think Adelaide will make the 8. If Saints win this week, we got a lock on Top 4. 8-3 with No Rooey or Gram is pretty satisfying, although we need to keep flying under the radar.
NSW extended squad for Game II
Trent Barrett (Cronulla Sharks), Matt Cooper (St George Illawarra Dragons), Ben Creagh (St George Illawarra Dragons), Josh Dugan (Canberra Raiders), Michael Ennis (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs), Paul Gallen (Cronulla Sharks), Kurt Gidley (Newcastle Knights), Jarryd Hayne (Parramatta Eels), Nathan Hindmarsh (Parramatta Eels), Jamal Idris (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs), Jason King (Manly Sea Eagles), Tom Learoyd-Lahrs (Canberra Raiders), Luke Lewis (Penrith Panthers), Brett Morris (St George Illawarra Dragons), Luke O’Donnell (North Queensland Cowboys), Mitchell Pearce (Sydney Roosters), Beau Scott (St George Illawarra Dragons), Timana Tahu (Parramatta Eels), Trent Waterhouse (Penrith Panthers), Michael Weyman (St George Illawarra Dragons), Brett White (Melbourne Storm)
My preferred team, assuming Hayne and Lewis are ruled out.
1. Josh Dugan
2. Brett Morris
3. Matt Cooper
4. Beau Scott
5. Timana Tahu
6. Trent Barrett
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Michael Weyman
9. Michael Ennis
10. Jason King
11. Nathan Hindmarsh
12. Luke O'Donnell
13. Paul Gallen
14. Kurt GIdley
15. Tom Learoyd-Lahrs
16. Trent Waterhouse
17. Brett White
It was a struggle trying to put the backline together. Didn't want to include Scott, but if the alternative is Idiris, then Scott all the way please. But...
Josh Dugan, welcome to Origin. I'm pretty sure he'll be there if he overcomes his injury. Huge challenge with the series on the line up at a Suncorp, but i'm confident. He hasn't been fazed by anything in his career so far. That said, even Greg Inglis' nerves got the better of him on his Origin debut, knocking on twice.
It would've been good to see Hayne vs. Slater again after Friday night, which was easily the best game of the season as far as i'm concerned. That was much more than Storm vs Eels between them two. Hayne completely owned Slater and it was awesome. Go NSW.
inferno
06-07-2010, 09:01 AM
Tahu on the wing EJ? I reckon Scott would be better on the wing.
Hayne I think is gone for sure, and I think Dugan is in with a decent shot. (By the by, I tipped the raiders over the weekend, but missed the sharks, lol)
I really fear they will pick Idris on the wing and QLD will run riot down his side and kick behind him all not. He has no lateral speed, will be forced to make a lot of decisions in defence, and his turn and chase is probably slower than me.
Picking centres on the wing work if they are a good centre and reasonably quick (think Matt King)
I think they will go
1. Dugan
2. Morris
3. Cooper/Scott
4. Tahu
5. Idris
6. Barrett
7. Pearce
8. Weyman
9. Ennis
10. White (joke of a selection)
11. Creagh
12. Waterhouse
13. Gallen
14. Gidley
15. TLL
16. King (shit selection, should have gone with Snowden or Mannah)
17. LOD
If Lewis is cleared then LOD drops off the bench. I kinda hope he gets picked because we have been linked with him and I want to see if he can still turn it on in big games.
I know I said it before but Chris Lawrence offers far more than Idris does and is lightening quick.
If it was me...
1. Dugan
2. Lawrence
3. Tahu
4. Cooper
5. Morris
6. Baz
7. Pearce
8. Weyman
9. Ennis
10. Perry (deserves a shot over king despite a lacklustre performance in game I)
11. Hindmarsh
12. LOD
13. Gallen
14. Waterhouse
15. TLL
16. Snowden (biased but I think he's up to it)
17. Gidley (if he has to be there)
inferno
06-08-2010, 09:37 AM
Hayne through the joke of a judiciary and free to play. Some sanity prevails and Idris is out.
Team has been named
Jarryd Hayne, Brett Morris, Matt Cooper, Beau Scott, Timana Tahu, Trent Barrett (vc), Mitchell Pearce, Michael Weyman, Michael Ennis, Brett White, Trent Waterhouse, Ben Creagh, Paul Gallen. Interchange: Kurt Gidley (c), Nathan Hindmarsh, Tom Learoyd-Lahrs, Luke O'Donnell.
Almost exactly the same side you picked EJ. Hindmarsh on the bench is stupid, he will offer no impact. To be honest a better option would be starting Hindmarsh, leaving him out there for the full 80, Gall as a prop off the bench. No one can say he's not capable.
Overall a better side, but I still think QLD will have it all over us.
Compare the NSW bench of Gidley, Hindmarsh, TLL and LOD to the QLD one of Hannant, Cronk, Taylor and Costigan. I think they will belt us up the middle, and win a far tighter contest. Perhaps a scoreline like 20 - 16 or something like that.
While I was certain Hayne would get done, I agree with the outcome. No intention to injure Slater, and Slater was not injured, no problem.
It is indeed a very similar team to the one I picked from the squad, so for that, I can't complain. Tahu on the wing? Why not? He played like half his career there. He always runs too close to the sideline at Parra anyway, he often traps his own winger in. He's pretty good under the high ball. Not a bad player to have returning kicks either.
I'm for Hindmarsh on the bench if it means Creagh gets pulled after 5 mins. Otherwise, yep, the interchange will be complained about. They really do have us off the bench, it's a fantastic bench.
I'm so glad Idris is not there. I'm bias, but I reckon Joel Thompson can give us everything people might be looking for from Idris. JT is killing them at the moment.
I predict Blues 34-7.
It could be the brownie I ate a few hours ago, but I find this video omg hilarious. Imagine being a fly on the wall of the NSW selectors room. You'd die of laughter if it weren't so sad. How can a Blues legend who captained us so many times come across as such a dumb cunt?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukJ3stJ8Ih4
I got some lulz out of that. I hope Heyne takes it to Slater in Origin. I want some beef. Slater is a dirty cunt. Nothing would make me happier to seem him on the receiving end of some biff. As for the side, Gidley must only play 20 minutes as a utility. My question is too the selectors, why would you pick a second-rower that has suffered with a sternum injury over the past couple of weeks. I would have included Snowden instead and then we have a strong side. Do I think we can beat queensland. Yes, but we need everything to fall into place.
Bestest
06-11-2010, 06:03 AM
Call me crazy but I think Adelaide will make the 8. If Saints win this week, we got a lock on Top 4. 8-3 with No Rooey or Gram is pretty satisfying, although we need to keep flying under the radar.
you're crazy. the 8 will be how it stands now with the possibility of essendon taking hawthorns spot.
Westward-ho
06-11-2010, 11:56 AM
Lucky for Essendon we only travel one more time. That should help our chances of maknig the eight. Plus good ol Fletcher returns this round.
Unfortuanly we have Geelong this week. They're simply to powerful for us to handell, we've usally get our arses handed to us when we vs them. Then again so do alot of teams. Our last game against them was promising but Geelong look alot stronger now then they did round 1.
North Melbourne upset Carlton. On one side That's another team we gotta compete with to get in the eight. On the up side Carlton lost, gotta be happy with that. What's with Carlton they're up down this year.
Also I'll be going to the Hawthorn vs Adelaide macth Saturday, about a 15 minute walk from my home Aurora stadium.
Styxx
06-12-2010, 01:58 PM
How about instead of picking Carlton apart every post ( the only admittance I'll give is we can't seem to get 3 straight wins which we need to do.) Focus on your club and why they went from challenging Geelong 3 months ago to getting done by 77 points.
Hawthorn essentially ended any chance Adelaide had. There is still 13 clubs who can stil challenge for 8. Some have it easier than others ( draw, the other results helping their case etc) than others.
This Folau issue has actually gained my interest into the NRL saga.
EJ - What's your take on the whole Carr wanting him banned issue? I find it interesting that the guy in charge of NSW rugby wants and ARL law banning him from playing, looks a little suspicsous from an outsiders point of view....doesn't stop me wanting NSW to win though.
Bestest
06-12-2010, 08:57 PM
well hunt played his first game of footy yesterday and it was pretty interesting. his tackling, as expected, was good but in general play he seemed a bit lost. i think shane crawford gave him 38/100 for his first game which i think isnt too bad. he kicked 2 goals but they were both gimmes so i wont read too much into that. what took me by surprised is that he could only run out half a game before he cramped up.... i didnt realise there was that much of a difference in fitness between afl and league.
I played both NRL and AFL growing up and AFL was far more taxing fitness wise. I don't know where I stand honestly on the whole Carr condemning Izzy's selection. Personally I don't really care because I think Monaghan will more then take care of him. I'd rather beat a QLD side that was full strength then one that had to omit players. I'm honestly more interested in the whole Johns/Tahu blowup.
According to Sunday Telegraph: Johns said to Beau Scott: "You gotta shut that black cunt down" (referring to Inglis) and Tahu was offended.
Westward-ho
06-13-2010, 12:53 AM
Styxx, I'm just mucking around this is what all footy fans do. Why don't you pick on Essendon? it's all fun and games.
GDL_XT21
06-13-2010, 05:51 AM
AFL would be the one of the most fitness required sports in the world these days... it's a 7 day job for the players. Even a shit player could rip a skilled not so fit player, look at Norths young recruit Banastic who is a couple years off their #5 pick from last year Cunning - something but having the bigger tank has made him more effective in their first years to date.
My boss is a Melbourne supporter going down in the Collingwood bus to the Queens birthday game... for his sake i hope they do well, i fucken hate the Pies.
Go Collingwood! Should be a good win for us tomorrow.
GDL_XT21
06-13-2010, 09:24 AM
no chance... http://www.dula.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/cat-pushing-watermelon.jpg
Box Car Rocco
06-13-2010, 09:30 AM
Not brave enough to tip Richmond, god dammit. Only have like, two tips right this week.
Jack Reiwoldt kicking 10 goals 3 behinds is quite amazing though. Can't remember a bag that large in a while.
Bestest
06-13-2010, 07:11 PM
i tipped richmond and watched the game, was good to see reiwoldt kick 10, good for the tiges.
also, lolz at the socceroos, cant wait to see what the media says about this. i have a feeling after the next game there will be a few million yellow scarves littering the streets and blocking drains.
inferno
06-14-2010, 05:04 AM
So who else got up at 4 to watch the Socceroos go around?
Have to say, it was an entirely expected result. I don't even think we played that bad, it's clear though the German side was far classier than ours. Even though we got whipped I have to say I still thought the game was quite enjoyable. Bring on Ghana in just under a week's time.
Would have been a win for us if our forwards would learn how to kick straight. Didn't watch most of the game but 9.22 is unacceptable from a team that is supposedly 3rd best in the country, and before you all go on about how your team is better or whatever, the ladder says otherwise.
I'm starting to think the Saints are better without Reiwoldt, makes them more unpredictable up forward.
I went to Fifa Fanfest, got pissed as a newt was a good night. As for our pereformance, we were disorganised and wasn't as structurally strong as four years ago and we were exposed even more by germany then we were by the USA.
Here's something just for Kafu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZwWQ7ZnTGU&feature=related
EDIT: Kafu, that's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. St Kilda are MUCH better with Riewoldt in as he sets up our forward structure and attracts multiple defenders. With him out, our midfielders have had to find avenues to goal and Milne has had to have a more commanding role. With Riewoldt back in we will be far more prolific on the scoreboard.
I'm refusing to watch that video
Styxx
06-14-2010, 08:58 AM
Styxx, I'm just mucking around this is what all footy fans do. Why don't you pick on Essendon? it's all fun and games.
Tend to rip on Port and Richmond because they genuinely deserve it. And in about two years I'll hate GC and GWS with a furious passion.
EJ - What's your take on the whole Carr wanting him banned issue? I find it interesting that the guy in charge of NSW rugby wants and ARL law banning him from playing, looks a little suspicsous from an outsiders point of view....doesn't stop me wanting NSW to win though.While I can't rule out the possibility of a NSW-bias agenda there, Carr is also the CEO of the ARL. When you shed all affiliations within the code aside, it's not hard to believe one would want to enforce such a ban on principle alone. QRL boss, Ross Livermore, expressed the same sentiments. Can't really blame Carr for this.
well hunt played his first game of footy yesterday and it was pretty interesting. his tackling, as expected, was good but in general play he seemed a bit lost. i think shane crawford gave him 38/100 for his first game which i think isnt too bad. he kicked 2 goals but they were both gimmes so i wont read too much into that. what took me by surprised is that he could only run out half a game before he cramped up.... i didnt realise there was that much of a difference in fitness between afl and league.There's funny footage of Khunt playing Union this year, where he batted the ball dead in his own in-goal. In league, that's fine. You immediately lose possession, but you stop a try. In union, that's a penalty-try. lolz
On his conditioning, he has just come from playing union, nuff said. Nar, he will do less weights and power based training for Aussie Rules and will work on his stamina more. It shouldn't be a problem by the time he plays in the AFL.
I played both NRL and AFL growing up and AFL was far more taxing fitness wise. I don't know where I stand honestly on the whole Carr condemning Izzy's selection. Personally I don't really care because I think Monaghan will more then take care of him. I'd rather beat a QLD side that was full strength then one that had to omit players. I'm honestly more interested in the whole Johns/Tahu blowup.
According to Sunday Telegraph: Johns said to Beau Scott: "You gotta shut that black cunt down" (referring to Inglis) and Tahu was offended.Monas will probably be marking Boyd, not Folau.
As for Johns/Tahu. Just another farce to compare to NSW performances over the last 5 years. On and off the field, we just don't handle anything well. I don't think Tahu is without fault, he should've approached Johns privately and expressed how he felt. He's an experienced player, who should not feel like he could not speak to Johns personally about it first. I know different people take more or less offense to different situations, but as an Asian, I don't think i'm completely unqualified to say he has acted a tad preciously about all this.
Joey should've no doubt have known better, but since when has he been known to be anything other than a dickhead off the field? Out of all the NSW players, perhaps only Kidley would know Johns better than Tahu. My opinion is Johns was trying to rev up the team, which is definitely what they need, but just went the wrong way about it.
So who else got up at 4 to watch the Socceroos go around?Stayed up to watch it, with no work on Monday and all. Went around to a mate's place, where we all waited about 8 hours for it to come on. The game itself is just a blip in my memory of the night/morning that ended with a mate falling through a glass-topped table as he was trying to put his shoes back on to leave. Dumbass brought a 5 litre goon bag with him that we had to hide from him as he descended from the level the rest of us were at. Plus, we were all very tired and only half finishing our sentences when the game was on. Getting smashed didn't end up concerning me much. At least we'll make the highlights reel for the week.
Why are wearing blue jersies? I saw the refs in yellow, but do South Africa and Brazil not also wear yellow/gold? Because it was definitely the reason we lost.
Highlight of the match? The Australian National Anthem.
GDL_XT21
06-15-2010, 03:17 AM
I havne't watched a soccer game since Italy fucked us in the last world cup for falling over and exploiting rules that support the player diving... Our teams turned to shit anyway, i liked that russian coach we had last time, gus hidink or whatever his name was... stern, stern but fair.
Bestest
06-15-2010, 04:01 AM
pretty sure hiddink was dutch same as pim. hiddink went on to coach the russians when he left the socceroos which may have confused you.
Sleepwalker
06-15-2010, 04:15 AM
Was happy to see a nail biter in front of 60 000 at the MCG proving that AFL is the greatest sport in the country after the socceroos debacle.
Also happy to see the Hawks on a 5 game winning streak :). Now if we can just beat the bombers i'll be stoked! Most hated team in the AFL.
And GWS recently signed a young bloke by the name of Anthony Miles. He comes from my club and is a top bloke. His brother aint too shabby of a player either.
GDL_XT21
06-15-2010, 05:21 AM
pretty sure hiddink was dutch same as pim. hiddink went on to coach the russians when he left the socceroos which may have confused you.
yeah that's the guy... if we had these questions 4 years ago i would've aced them.
Westward-ho
06-15-2010, 06:19 AM
Tend to rip on Port and Richmond because they genuinely deserve it. And in about two years I'll hate GC and GWS with a furious passion.
Well I guess our draft chances in the next to years will probably get the anal with no lube treatment. So I guess we'll both hate them for a while.
When it comes to me picking on Carlton every post. It's mainly because two of my best mates are ferice annoying Carlton supporters. The ripping they gave me after the 1999 match (you know the one) will live in my mind for ever. So I tend to ate Carlton pretty bad.
And I guess I'll hate Collingwood to because I'm supposed to. You either love em or you hate em.
Back to Essendon, things aint looking good after getting smacked by a depleted Geelong. I'm still 50/50 if I think we can beat Hawthorn, they're looking alot better then they did last time we met. I've seen them bounce back before when they've come off a loss I have faith. Fuck I wish Dustin Fletcher could play for ever, It's going to be scary when he retires. Probably our best defender in our history.
A question: Which club do you think is next to merge or go under. We got two new clubs coming in with the AFL throwing money at them.
I tell you one thing though, when Collingwood start kicking straight they're going to be tough to beat. 9.22 jesus christ.
Edit: LOL at the the video about Collingwood jokes.
I havne't watched a soccer game since Italy fucked us in the last world cup for falling over and exploiting rules that support the player diving... Our teams turned to shit anyway, i liked that russian coach we had last time, gus hidink or whatever his name was... stern, stern but fair.Sure, the Italian milked that penalty, but he also had Neil beat. They beat us with a man down for the majority of the game.
It was disappointing to see how bad we played. Last time we had some spark. Kewell was 4 years younger and actually managed to get out on the field. Bresciano and Viduka were a presence. At the very least, Viduka was a physical presence up front. I think we also rode a greater wave of excitement and enthusiasm. The whole vibe here and coming from the team isn't as charged as last time. It's just the vibe of the thing, and Mabo...
And our coach, what's his name? Pim? Where's he from? He looks kinda evil. A cross between what Tom Cruise looks like when he injects himself with that face changing treatment in Mission Impossible, and Ivan Drago.
Anybody see this in Today's paper?
Justice in Adelaide
(AP) - A seven-year old boy was at the centre of an Adelaide courtroom drama when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the highest degree possible.
The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried and said that they also beat him.
After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him.
After two recesses to check legal references and confer with the child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the Port Adelaide Football Club, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone else this year.
Styxx
06-15-2010, 09:41 AM
Well I guess our draft chances in the next to years will probably get the anal with no lube treatment. So I guess we'll both hate them for a while.
When it comes to me picking on Carlton every post. It's mainly because two of my best mates are ferice annoying Carlton supporters. The ripping they gave me after the 1999 match (you know the one) will live in my mind for ever. So I tend to ate Carlton pretty bad.
And I guess I'll hate Collingwood to because I'm supposed to. You either love em or you hate em.
Collingwood get preferential treatment, no dental.
I know the match but I remember going to a game earlier that year and you beat us by a point, may have been slightly earlier. That upset a 8 or 9 year olod Styxx muchly.
Bestest
06-15-2010, 05:42 PM
Well I guess our draft chances in the next to years will probably get the anal with no lube treatment. So I guess we'll both hate them for a while.
When it comes to me picking on Carlton every post. It's mainly because two of my best mates are ferice annoying Carlton supporters. The ripping they gave me after the 1999 match (you know the one) will live in my mind for ever. So I tend to ate Carlton pretty bad.
And I guess I'll hate Collingwood to because I'm supposed to. You either love em or you hate em.
Back to Essendon, things aint looking good after getting smacked by a depleted Geelong. I'm still 50/50 if I think we can beat Hawthorn, they're looking alot better then they did last time we met. I've seen them bounce back before when they've come off a loss I have faith. Fuck I wish Dustin Fletcher could play for ever, It's going to be scary when he retires. Probably our best defender in our history.
A question: Which club do you think is next to merge or go under. We got two new clubs coming in with the AFL throwing money at them.
I tell you one thing though, when Collingwood start kicking straight they're going to be tough to beat. 9.22 jesus christ.
Edit: LOL at the the video about Collingwood jokes.
dunno about essendon, they'll probably lose against the hawks but after that they have 4 relitively easy games, if they win them all they're definently in with a chance of making the 8, drop one and i dont think they'll make it.
next club to merge will be north melbourne, obviously. it's embaressing watching their games on tv and seeing more empty seats than occupied ones. having said that there wont be a merger for atleast 10 years and it'll take one of the new teams to fail misserably for it to happen.
as a collingwood supporter it's frustrating watching them kick so many points. they did exactly the same against the saints and geelong where if they kicked straight they would have been competitive. they obviously cant handle the forward pressure and once all the teams figure that out we might be in trouble. the other lines are working beautifully tho, just need to get a settled forward line.
Here we go...
"Collingwood get preferential treatment" bullshit.
Essendon are playing more games in Melbourne than us. Fact. There the ones getting preferential treatment.
The bigger problem is our forward 50 entry. I'm sick of watching our players bomb away instead of our forwards leading and us honoring the lead. Jack Anthony is shit at everything other than kicking straight and I don't even think he can manage that right most of the time.
Styxx
06-16-2010, 12:22 AM
Dude, when I added no dental I assumed people would have seen the fact it was a joke.
Westward-ho
06-16-2010, 07:43 AM
Now you know how I feel when people can't take a joke.
And hell yer we play like 5 games outside melborune. We have a great run this year. Of course that means if we miss the eight it'll be more embarrising. We got 1 more game away from home and that's it. I'll admit we got it easy this year.
Edit: Spud that joke was fucking amazing. Just brilliant.
Here is some street talk in Adelaide with good ole sammy newman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZwWQ7ZnTGU
I'm pretty speechless. QLD were amazing. QLD are amazing. Just gonna keep this short.
Loved the intensity of the first half, really enjoyed the biff. O'Donnell's a psycho and will not play for the Cowboys for a few weeks, but he's still the man for that. The other New South Welshman worthy of a shoutout is Beau Scott. Didn't he prove a few people, including me, wrong. He got under Inglis' skin so well, that's the first time i've seen ol' Greggy lash out.
Lockyer is the single true legend of the game today. No one else can be held with such high regard, not yet anyway. He's the King of Kings.
For a bit of lol, I was pretty damn close with the score, just the other way around.
I predict Blues 34-7.
I'm pretty speechless. QLD were amazing. QLD are amazing.
That's exactly how I feel. I'm worried about the extent of Cooper's injury, hopefully not too serious
inferno
06-16-2010, 09:00 AM
Anybody see this in Today's paper?
Justice in Adelaide
(AP) - A seven-year old boy was at the centre of an Adelaide courtroom drama when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the highest degree possible.
The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried and said that they also beat him.
After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him.
After two recesses to check legal references and confer with the child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the Port Adelaide Football Club, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone else this year.
haha I read exactly the same thing about my team (the Sharks) while we were still riding an 11 or 12 game losing streak.
As for the soccer, I was unimpressed, though I think I might jump on that "Anzac" bandwagon and support the Kiwis. The did quite well I thought.
I don't know enough about the coaching or soccer in general to know where we fucked up, but it was clear the Germans were a couple of classes above.
As for our previous coach, if memory serves he told the Australian Soccer federation or whatever the body is that governs our national side, that he would come back and coach us this world cup if the reins were passed onto his assistant after the last world cup, and we knocked back his offer...
QLD far to good for us tonight. I don't really know where the Blues go from here. Of course Gus the wanker started sprouting on about Gidley being played out of position and how hard it was to struggle to get into the game off the bench, blah blah blah. It's easy to sit on the sideline and criticise a team playing one of the greatest league sides ever assembled without offering a single solution.
Gallen I think will be gone for 2 - 3 weeks (has a shitty record) and I am SUPER pissed off. Cooper pulled a heartstring as per usual and won't be backing up in the local derby.
By far the biggest concern is O'Donell though. The punches and headbutt I don't think there was much in, but this tackle looked ugly.
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/06/16/1607556/300_tackle-300x340.jpg
If Hindmarsh wasn't a protected species he might be in a bit of hot water as well.
I must be alone in thinking Beau Scott had a good game, after reading the league forums. Where did he go wrong? I watched the game in full, and thought he was our best player.
I guess I can be glad Dugan wasn't a part of that. He shall finish his Origin career without suffering a single defeat.
Bestest
06-16-2010, 09:33 PM
when i think of league i think of these three things:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgVHHBPcfCY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt--SGmIKIQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnbhy321Owc
and one from the afl just because i was crying with laughter watching it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyfG7radC7w
Styxx
06-17-2010, 01:14 AM
As much as the commentators fawned over QLD, they basically ripped apart NSW.
I honestly know fuck all about NRL as far as who plays for who and who is considered a "great" player. But that NSW line-up seriously cannot be the best they can produce?
MC Steel
06-17-2010, 03:10 AM
This time last year, I thought State of Origan was the best football on TV. Now, I can't watch it all.
Why's that? Was it the game itself last night, or do you mean you didn't even watch it? I thought it was a fantastic game, even if we got whipped. That shit was intense, especially the first half.
Styxx, that's pretty much the best we've got, save for a few injured. Going back and reading my original selection for last night's game, my team differed by 9 out of the 17 players selected, although I basically conceded the point on Pearce in for Kimmorley, which made a difference of 8 players. So I guess what I wanted was quite different to what we played last night.
Bestest, LOL@MENINGA. And the Falcon was a classic.
inferno
06-17-2010, 05:07 AM
when i think of league i think of these three things:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgVHHBPcfCY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt--SGmIKIQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnbhy321Owc
and one from the afl just because i was crying with laughter watching it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyfG7radC7w
HAHAHAHAHA, as a sport we've certainly had our moments.
The game itself I thought was quite enjoyable to be honest. The QLD side is a well oiled machine and watching great players in peak form is a great sight to see. As for NSW, same questions will be asked, the coach will undoubtedly be gone, and some players will get the ax with some youngsters probably being thrown to the wolves and next year another "rebuilding phase" will begin.
Styxx
06-17-2010, 10:09 AM
Why's that? Was it the game itself last night, or do you mean you didn't even watch it? I thought it was a fantastic game, even if we got whipped. That shit was intense, especially the first half.
Styxx, that's pretty much the best we've got, save for a few injured. Going back and reading my original selection for last night's game, my team differed by 9 out of the 17 players selected, although I basically conceded the point on Pearce in for Kimmorley, which made a difference of 8 players. So I guess what I wanted was quite different to what we played last night.
Bestest, LOL@MENINGA. And the Falcon was a classic.
Don't get me wrong, I actually found myself enjoying parts of it. But I think NSW have a lot too look at as far as selection and placement go, a few guys on the end they scored the first try or two were pretty poor.
To be honest I think it was tactic from NSW to put pressure on the wings and centres in defence to shut them down and because they're not use to executing that game plan at club level it failed miserably.
Box Car Rocco
06-17-2010, 05:53 PM
NSW need a good halves pair to build their team around. So many young halves have been thrown into the spot over the past five years that it is getting beyond a joke. Even Hodkinson (sad to see him leave Manly) was playing City vs Country after 6 games of first grade football in his debut season. Queensland have had Thurston and Lockyer for a while and if that failed, class like Scott Prince was there ready to be a replacement. Once NSW get a better combination at five-eight and halfback, then maybe they'll get better.
In hindsight, the one thing I noticed that the QLD forward pack was far more dominant in enforcing themselves allowing the backs to run riot. I say bring Snowden in for game three
inferno
06-18-2010, 07:27 AM
Have to agree. The forward pack is where they have been getting dominated in the last 5 series.
Weyman is a great prop at club level, benchie in Origin. He was so easy to pick off it was ridiculous. Pick 80min backrowers (Gallen, Hindmarsh, Bird) and big a huge bench and they will go a lot better.
Abominable (Snowden) certainly wouldn't let anyone down, but to be honest the Sharks need him so if he misses out, I won't be too disappointed.
I think that was our 11th halves pairing in the last 12 games. It's something like that anyway, truly ridiculous.
Let's stick with Campo/Pearce. Each are pretty much the best we have in attack, and fortunately, i'd say they're the best we have in defence as well. Everyone else is either too old to stick with or just not good enough. I can really only see Sutton staking a claim.
Just been watching Broncos/Panthers. I'm repeating myself, but Coote is a freak. If Dugan is the next Mullins (he'll actually be better than Mullins), then Coote is the next Slater. The way he attacks kicks from the opposition and especially the way he chases kicks from his own team, reeks of Billy Slater. He's small, with a great running game - Billy Slater. He makes his fair share of errors - Billy Slater. Where I think he can develop his game above Slaters, and perhaps already has, is in his ball-handling. He's got a great arsenal of short attacking kicks, and comes up with unreal offloads under huge pressure. He's currently the league's leading try scorer (and in the the juniors he proved to be an exceptional goal kicker).
All eyes are on Dugan, and this guy is absolutely ripping it up under the radar. Amazingly, they're both going to put huge pressure on Hayne for the NSW jersey. Would be awesome if they could somehow all perform well in the same team.
inferno
06-18-2010, 07:10 PM
haha so your solution for NSW having too many halves combinations is to try another one EJ?
I do see your point though, and Campo could become a long term NSW 5/8. His only real competition is Sutton (who I do not rate at all) and Bird, who plays better at lock. I wonder how Dugan would go on the wing? I don't think Hayne has impressed there to be honest.
Tell you one thing though, if I see Gidley at fullback again I will fucking lose it.
We have no choice but to change the halves with Barrett signalling retirement.
I think Dugan could play either wing or centre just fine. He played centre for NSW U18's, while Coote occupied the fullback spot, two years ago.
But I wouldn't be surprised if one day they try Hayne at 5/8 and Dugan at fullback.
inferno
06-19-2010, 05:34 AM
God I hope to never see that day. Just about the only trick in Hayne's book as far as playmaking is his no look pass, and if memory serves more than has ended up in the first row this Origin series.
Personally I think it's time to move the old guard on, and the first of these to be moved should be Gidley. He's not the best fullback, half, or utility in the state so how he makes the side is beyond me.
I think Farrah/Carney should grab that spot and I'd be leaning towards Farrah. It adds a touch more pressure to Ennis who has been in nowhere near the form this year as he was last year.
I understand there is a glut of backrowers in the side but I still think Lewis, Gallen and Bird should be our starting backrow. Bring Watmough off the bench, and the other 2 spots need to be taken by impact players, at least 1 prop, preferably 2.
Creagh needs to stay the fuck out of SOO forever. He only made 22m in game II. 22 farken metres!
Next generation of props, Snowden, Douglas, Galloway need to be blooded NOW.
I dunno about Douglas. I'm on the Mannah bandwagon and I would swap him for Douglas and that trio looks pretty good.
EDIT: Oh, completely forgot about Tolman, just about the best of the bunch.
There's some talent there, we might as well chuck a load of newbies in in Game III, fark all to lose, innit.
Box Car Rocco
06-19-2010, 08:35 AM
Shame about Hodkinson going to the Bulldogs next year. Tonight was fucking excellent though. Having no centres and gutting it out was amazing. Manly needed that win big time.
Bestest
06-23-2010, 08:06 PM
well, kevin rudd is no longer. bit sad i think but i'm not really into politics.
is this a good or bad thing?
Styxx
06-24-2010, 09:43 AM
Probably worse.
Had they waited the 6 - 7 months for when the actual election happens and they didn't win, then yeah a change would have been justifiable. It's really suspect that the Treasurer - who made the budget for the failed programs is promoted to deputy.
It's even more suspiscious when the deputy - who always took the same stand on issues becomes the PM. THEN backflips slightly on the Mining tax which they havent allowed any budget room to do.
It's the same shit but now that there is a woman leading it's probably been done to try and gain a free past because they'll call the "Australia is Sexist" card if she loses to Abbott.
BTW, last newspoll had Aboot ahead of Gillard 54-46
That second half was an annihilation. Loved every moment of it.
Supposedly K-Rudd had a compromise on the mining tax issue he was preparing to unveil.
I think Gillard sounds like a retard when she speaks. She's a ranga and she's from South Australia. Oh well, good on her. That's about the extend of my care factor.
Now, the NSW side for the dead rubber Origin has just been announced, and i'm quite excited about it. 8 changes from last game, and i'm just going off memory, but i'm pretty sure this is right...
1. Jarryd Hayne
2. Brett Morris
3. Michael Jennings
4. Beau Scott
5. Michael Gordon
6. Trent Barrett (c)
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Jason King
9. Michael Ennis
10. Kade Snowden
11. Luke Lewis
12. Paul Gallen
13. Greg Bird
14. Kurt Gidley
15. Tom Learoyd-Lahrs
16. Tim Mannah
17. Anthony Watmough
Jennings and Gordon, surprised and "clap clap"
Snowden, clap clap clap.
That backrow, round of applause, it's pretty awesome.
And great bench to cap it off.
We'll win easy. Probably by 40-50 points.
I like the look of that side except for 3 things, especially the first two:
Trent Barrett (Jamie Soward)
Jason King (Michael Weyman)
Kurt Gidley (Robbie Farah)
GDL_XT21
06-28-2010, 06:22 AM
i had a great text the other day of gillard fucking k-rudd from behind, put a smile on my face.
inferno
06-28-2010, 06:49 AM
Best side of the series so far, shame it took them 3 games to get there. Stoked they are re-uniting the bash brothers, I have a feeling Gal and Birdy will wreak havoc in this game.
Spud, Weyman is out likely to be suspended for 4-6 weeks so that's why they didn't pick him.
On the downside we are going to struggle this week with out Snowy, Gal and Baz.
Also sorry for tipping the Raiders this week EJ, I put the kiss of death on them.
Also I have a feeling we'll see Rudd back on the front bench after the election.
Spud, Weyman is out likely to be suspended for 4-6 weeks so that's why they didn't pick him.
Also I have a feeling we'll see Rudd back on the front bench after the election.
Fuck, forgot to take that into account, what I don't understand is why they don't blood Soward or even give Campese another go over Barrett. As for seeing Rudd on the front bench after all that transpired, I see no reason why Krudd would even consider that. He'll go the Kim Beazley way and take up an ambassadorship (probably made that word up). In fact, I've
heard little rumblings that he's looking to take one up with China.
EDIT: What an absolute fucking joke the AFL MRP is. How in the fuck can Baker get a LONGER suspension then Barry Hall's King hit. Moreover, how can Johnson who split Bake's eye open only get 4 weeks, Mooney's hit only get 3 compared to Baker's potential 12 weeks. This is an absolute joke and hopefully our admin decide to take this court because it is an absolute disgrace. Fuck off finding fairy charges to put on Baker.
I do blame you for the loss, Inferno.
That's pretty much our season over. What a woeful record we've had at home this year. Not like our away record is any good either, so we're just a shit team all 'round this year. We need to buy Cooper Cronk. We will never be contenders with the complete lack of direction we currently play with.
Bestest
06-28-2010, 08:29 PM
spud, i agree with you. baker got fucked over pretty bad but they're most likely making an example of him to stop pests and taggers from doing this in the future. he should have only gotten 2 weeks for the one where he punched stevie in the face, all be it pretty soft. the rest were just bullshit really. he will most likely contest them, which may push it up to 15 weeks, but we'll see how it turns out.
9 weeks. The tribunal can get fucked and I hope we take this to court.
Styxx
07-04-2010, 11:19 AM
Sucks to be the following this week.
Michael Barlow, West Coast Eagles.
Good week to be.
Richmond Tigers, Adelaide Crows.
How the fuck did that happen?
Westward-ho
07-05-2010, 04:11 AM
We havn't Learnt how to do games away from home yet.
I don't know how to put it into words I'm speechless. I thought we'd thumped the Crows. I think essendon can still play good footy though. This happeneds every now and then we get a little like this. I still have faith, may not make the finals but as long as they try harder next time I'll be happy.
Richmond winning on the other hand I didn't see coming. DAMN!
Edit: AWWWWW I don't have 69 posts anymore.
We just can't win.
Pretty much all the changes we made turned out for the better, but still not enough. Very happy with the performances of Sir Greggory Bird, Haynos and former captain Kids, they were excellent.
Thought our props actually did pretty well, though the rotation is still questionable. I thought Mannah looked very good with his limited hitups, he got over the top of defense and was standing for the quick play the ball everytime. TLL was the most aggressive player out there, even King did a decent job. Good stuff.
Once again, Lockyer was a big difference, and Slater, the little cunt, was unbelievable with his try save on Watmough, then followed up it up quickly with the game winning try down the other end.
I can't wait for the Four Nations when I can have a team that wins again.
Styxx
07-07-2010, 08:42 AM
I watched it again....and tbh if thats the direction NSW is really heading next year might be a different story. Good improvement overall.
You guys all know the 7:30 Report, yeah? With Kerry O'Brien?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iysSJ51sRc
...And Abo version of Waltzing Matilda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sopmZNqARwQ&feature=related
inferno
08-26-2010, 06:06 AM
*bump
So hung parliament, what's up with that?
Styxx
08-27-2010, 09:25 AM
Well the people spoke and they clearly said that they dont want either party running the country.
It's pretty gay. We'll probably have to vote again in October, i'm not sure I can avoid watching TV for that long. What's the Queen doing in all this? Can't she just wave her wand and, *poof*, we have a Prime Minister?
Fuck it, there's much more important issues at hand, like the Raiders winning (ideally, thrashing) the Cowboys tonight. If we do that and beat the Broncos next week, I just won't believe it. What an amazing turnaround. Seven weeks ago, I was CONVINCED our season was finished. At the time, we had to win eight games from the remaining nine, and the thought of us doing that was simply laughable. Well, we're six from seven going into tonight and we can forget all that and we just need two consecutive wins now to set up a likely face-off with the Dragons for the third time this season.
Hard not to get excited, but the players need to be more composed than myself, cus it should be all about the Cowboys tonight. We can easily lose this one, it's our recent history to lose a game like this.
COME ON RAIDERS!
inferno, you're probably glad to see the back of Ferguson, but i'm very excited about signing him. I have confidence that he just needed the change of scenery and he will carve up for us next year. We'll have just about one of the best sides on paper in 2011, which is an astoundingly weird feeling.
Westward-ho
08-28-2010, 11:27 PM
Well my AFL and NRL teams have pretty much finished last and second last.
I said this last year but, there's always next year. Said it the year before that to now I think of it.
Man when Fletcher leaves the Bombers we're fucked, God damn it won't be fun to watch if you're a Essendon supporter he can only have 1-2 years left.
Am making the Trip down, for a game the saints MUST win against Geelong, if we don't it's a tough road back. Dragons vs Raiders looks pretty much penciled in for the first week of the finals and I'll be honest am fucking worried about that.
Dragons gotta beat the Raiders again sometime. But if we meet for a third time this season, and win again, we deserve to be Premiership contenders. No other team has beaten them twice this season, no team will even get a chance to beat them three times. If a miracle occurs and we make the Grand Final, it's quite conceivable that we'll meet the Dragons a FOURTH time, and it'll be just our luck that that's when they'll beat us. Getting waaay ahead of ourselves now though, the Broncos haven't missed the finals for as long as I can remember, they'll be real tough Friday night.
Styxx
08-30-2010, 01:23 AM
Well my AFL and NRL teams have pretty much finished last and second last.
I said this last year but, there's always next year. Said it the year before that to now I think of it.
Man when Fletcher leaves the Bombers we're fucked, God damn it won't be fun to watch if you're a Essendon supporter he can only have 1-2 years left.
Speaking of which....I did attend a certain Friday Night game on August 6th.
Westward-ho
08-30-2010, 09:49 AM
I've been hearing it non stop ever since. From both Carlton and Collingwood fans I know.
Now we've fired our coach, I really don't think that was needed. Even though we didn't do awesome thos year he's only been coach 3 fucking years. And they let him go, very gay. I think we did ok this year ad we showed some good signs. Yer, we can't play outside melbourne, but that will come in time.
Plus we get to pay out his contract which means more money. Clubs like the Kangas must be like "Fuck I wish we could piss money away like that". Maybe we'll get Williams as coach I read that he's interested in coaching still and he used to be a assistant coach here before.
Oh well, time to watch finals and hope Collingwood don't win. I'd rather die then see Eddies smug face.
Styxx
08-30-2010, 10:03 AM
Collingwood has started to wobble. Almost dropping to Adelaide and then falling over to Hawthorn.
They'll beat the Bulldogs who are in an absolute rabble through illness and horrid luck but will struggle if they get Hawthorn/ St Kilda/Geelong in a Preliminary yet alone win the GF.
They are beatable if you can make them wasteful.
St Kilda
Hawthorn
Collingwood
Sydney
Combined Odds: $9.82 - Not bad at all
Edit: With Collingwood over 15.5 points it comes to $11.87 combined odds
Westward-ho
08-31-2010, 08:03 AM
Last few years I've been afriad Collingwood would dominate. They've always had the players I've thought just sometimes they have the 'wobbles' as you say.
But I think when finals come they'll be ready. I notice top teams usally take the 'foot of the gas' so to speak just before finals time.
God I hope they wobble and lose.
It will be a St Kilda vs Geelong Grand Final, and I will be VERY surprised if it's not. Book it.
Styxx
09-01-2010, 08:10 AM
I'm going to be slightly odd as far as a Carlton supporter goes, if we somehow get past Sydney we could possibly only beat the Bulldogs. Maybe Geelong at the MCG but they'd be too fresh from the week off.
Collingwood CAN and HAVE failed when they don't convert. Melbourne took it to them wonderfully, Adelaide nearly stole a game and Hawthorn were more accurate which in finals CAN BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
Kicking 6.17 in a final = a loss.
inferno
09-01-2010, 08:25 AM
inferno, you're probably glad to see the back of Ferguson, but i'm very excited about signing him. I have confidence that he just needed the change of scenery and he will carve up for us next year. We'll have just about one of the best sides on paper in 2011, which is an astoundingly weird feeling.
To be honest I am pretty dirty about it, but I don't blame the guy, we are an absolute rabble at the moment, and I do think he has a better chance of winning a premiership with you guys. If it was just the fact he was leaving, there would be no harsh feelings, but this asshole came out and basically called his teammates hopeless. I think it was a disgrace he wasn't dropped and hope it's not a sign of things to come from "Flanno"
I have a soft spot for the Raiders, and I will probably be cheering them in the finals. If you guys also beat Brisbane and deny them a chance in the finals, I might even consider dumping the sharks permanently in favour of them!
What is the backline likely to look next year?
Meanwhile the Sharks seem to have hit some semblance of form (for us) and a win against the Pennies is not totally inconceivable. I have no doubt if Sticky was still coaching us, we'd still be anchored to the bottom of the ladder.
Meanwhile in Sydney we have Ivan Milat linked to even more murders, and another NSW minister sacked for incompetency (this one was accessing "adult sites" and gambling from his work computer). The more things change, the more things stay the same...
Better getting caught looking at porn and losing money than sniffing some old bitches chair, I guess.
Man, people made a big deal of Gallen's stats from the weekend, but he's produced as good several times this year already. Against us, in a losing team, he ran over 200m and made over 30 tackles. He even had similar stats in the Four Nations Final against England last year. And they didn't pick him for the first Origin, lololololol, farking hell. Gallen apart, Cronulla's got a whole lot more respectability than the Cowboys for me, and I think for most NRL fans. As croydon dog food would say, they have starch.
Raiders 2011 backline? Likely something like this...
1. Josh Dugan
2. Daniel Vidot
3. Blake Ferguson
4. Jarrod Croker
5. Joel Monaghan
6. Terry Campese
7. Josh McCrone
It would mean Joel Thompson would move into the forwards where his destiny lies. Either that, or I certainly wouldn't be against him becoming a bit of a super-sub. He proved this year he can excel in the backs, and I don't question his ability as a forward, he would be the perfect cover, a grand luxury.
It's damn good to see so many of the 2008 Toyota Cup winning team come through and really excel in first grade. Consider the fact that Dugan, Vidot and Croker were still eligible for the U20s this year (Croker is still 19 now), and Drury Low to come, it's been pretty amazing. Fensom has been plagued with injuries a bit this year, but the guy is deadset Tonguey V2.0, i've been very impressed by him.
I won't get started on the forward pack, except to say that Tilse and Logan coming on to replace Shillo and TLL is the most awesome prop rotation we've had in about 15 years.
LivingZen
09-01-2010, 10:08 PM
Collingwood won't win the flag. Their kicking has been far too poor all year round, not to mention their track record of choking the finals is legendary. I think Geelong's gonna be the team to beat again this season, they're a strong cohesive unit and they have to do something special to stop Ablett defecting to the Gold Coast.
I'm getting a good feeling about Sydney though. They won their last 4 matches of the season, including a big win over Hawthorn and knocking over Fremantle last week (I think).
Also, any ideas on who will be coaching the Bombers next season?
inferno
09-02-2010, 05:36 AM
Gallen is a stat machine, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him get really close in the Dally Ms. The problem is his greatest asset can also be his greatest undoing with him overplaying his hand far too often. Not that I blame him given how impotent our attack has been over the past few years. Also his wide running tends to cramp our backs never giving them any room to move. I think a move to prop might work wonders for him. It would enable us to keep either Snowy or Douglas on the bench which ensures we don't suffer a dramatic drop in quality when our starters come off which is currently the case.
I do love the Raiders pack though, they are absolute behemoths the lot of them. They were all blue chip type players when they arrived, but have all kicked on. Shillo in particular has been phenomenal for you guys since Origin.
Not sure about playing Ferguson in the centres, I know that's what he wants, but honestly for the majority of the year he was average on the wing, and has one of the NRL's highest error rates. He is quite young though, so there is plenty of time for him. Wouldn't surprise me to see him on the wing for NSW in a couple of years time. I will be watching him with interest over the next couple of years to see if he does kick on the way I think he will.
Styxx
09-02-2010, 09:49 AM
Mark Williams had put his hand up and would be my choice. They NEED an experienced guy right now.
Westward-ho
09-02-2010, 09:17 PM
He's worked with us before, I know Fetcher was around when he was assistant coach under Sheedy.
Plus unlike Port we're got the money to pay him :-)
Still, I'm not to scared about finishing this low this year. Our team still has time to build and I feel we have alot of great young talent coming up.
Styxx
09-03-2010, 12:31 PM
You beat St Kilda twice yet lost to Brisbane and West Coast (twice).......In theory on the St Kilda wins you should be a better side than you finished.
There was a theory that players tank to piss off a coach...this screams it.
St Kilda
Hawthorn
Collingwood
Sydney
Combined Odds: $9.82 - Not bad at all
Cunts. What a great game it was between St Kilda and Geelong and I'm sick of the whinging cunts going on about the free, it was definitely there and it was paid in the 2nd quarter as well. Seriously fuck the media on it. They're a bunch of cunts as well.
Collingwood vs Geelong and St Kilda vs Sydney Prelims look amazing. Especially as I'm one of the few Saints supporters in Sydney.
Westward-ho
09-05-2010, 05:47 AM
You beat St Kilda twice yet lost to Brisbane and West Coast (twice).......In theory on the St Kilda wins you should be a better side than you finished.
There was a theory that players tank to piss off a coach...this screams it.
Yer, I wasn't sure what the fuck was going on. Some days you have you bad days playing. But I still feel we should have won more. Then again so does every team, just hope Collingwood don't win the flag.
Interesting finals series though I'm liking it. Been chilling with my dad watching the footy, hopefully I don't have to work during the grand final this year.
LivingZen
09-07-2010, 12:47 AM
I'm pretty sure the AFL would be spewing right now, they would've been gearing up for a Geelong / Collingwood grand final, but if Geelong get up this week it's a Prelim.
Am I the only one wanting to see a Swans/Dockers grand final? It's still a possibility to happen.
Westward-ho
09-07-2010, 02:36 AM
Damn, wonder what the crowd size would be like if that happened.
Wonder if they could even draw over 50,000?
And in other news, we have a minor government installed. Labour/Greens/Independents Coalition. Do not want another 3 years of Labour, HOPEFULLY the Independents and Greens will keep them in check.
LivingZen
09-08-2010, 11:13 AM
Damn, wonder what the crowd size would be like if that happened.
Wonder if they could even draw over 50,000?
I don't think they'd have too much trouble with the Sydney supporters, due totheir South Melbourne heritage.
In regards to the government, does anyone else think we're going to be back at the polls within 12 months anyway? I mean, even with the Greens and Independents, they still only hold a 2 seat majority, what kind of legislation could they possibly pass? Something just screams to me that we're heading for a double dissolutionment down the line.
It was also stated during many of the press conference broadcasts that if we were to vote again, Abbott would have been the PM. This is what people get for voting in the Greens. Fucking inner-city hippy pricks.
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